QA/Meetings/20120521

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Attendees

  • tflink (98)
  • adamw (27)
  • j_dulaney (18)
  • kparal (15)
  • jskladan (13)
  • brunowolff (9)
  • cpuobsessed (6)
  • zodbot (6)
  • pschindl (5)
  • mkrizek (4)
  • nonamedotc (3)
  • ianweller (2)
  • Cerlyn (1)
  • chaosinc (1)
  • jsmith (1)

Agenda

  • Previous meeting follow-up
  • Fedora 17 Final status / planning
  • Test Day report
  • Upcoming QA events
  • 2012-05-17 Gnome Boxes Test Day Results
  • Pending RHBZ Upgrade
  • AutoQA update
  • Open floor

Previous meeting follow-up

  • adamw or tflink to check status of #810104 with TC5 - the EFI issues ended up being an issue with the build environment, has been fixed
  • adamw to create some shared bugzilla searches for F17 final blocker/nth to replace the wiki page - we decided we would update the blocker page by hand instead

Fedora 17 Final status/planning

  • rhbug:822495 still needs to be verified
  • gtk3-3.4.3-2.fc17 needs karma in order to make it into RC3

Blocker review

  • AGREED: rhbug:823189 is rejected as a blocker, does not hit any of the Fedora 17 release criteria and it's too late in the release cycle to be taking anaconda changes for minor issues that have workarounds

Upcoming QA events

  • Go/no-go scheduled for Thursday 2012-05-24

2012-05-17 Gnome Boxes Test Day Results

  • 6 testers reported results, 13 bugs referenced

AutoQA update

  • jskladan spent time to optimize resultsdb searches and they're much faster now

Action items

  • tflink or adamw to keep blocker wiki page updated by hand

IRC Log

tflink #startmeeting fedora-qa 15:00
zodbot Meeting started Mon May 21 15:00:50 2012 UTC. The chair is tflink. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:00
zodbot Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 15:00
tflink #meetingname fedora-qa 15:00
zodbot The meeting name has been set to 'fedora-qa' 15:00
tflink jskladan: #topic roll call 15:01
* adamw rides in with the palace guard 15:01
tflink #chair adamw 15:01
zodbot Current chairs: adamw tflink 15:01
tflink adamw: wasn't sure if you were around or not 15:01
adamw it's a vacation here but i'm showing up for the meeting 15:01
adamw you go ahead and run it though 15:01
* jskladan switched from rock'n;roll to death metal 15:01
kparal tflink: #topic failed 15:01
tflink kparal: looks like it did, hrm 15:02
tflink #topic roll call 15:02
* cpuobsessed switched from classical to progressive metal 15:02
tflink there we go 15:02
* pschindl is here 15:02
* mkrizek is here 15:02
* kparal raises his hand shyly 15:02
* cpuobsessed is here 15:02
Cerlyn $MEETING_GREETING 15:02
* brunowolff will be here for about 25 minutes, but then I have another meeting 15:02
* jskladan still here, but getting slayer-neck 15:02
tflink jskladan: slayer-neck? 15:03
cpuobsessed head banger? 15:03
tflink yeah, that was my first though 15:03
tflink thought 15:03
jskladan cpuobsessed: yup :) 15:03
tflink ok, I think we have enough people to get this party started 15:05
tflink #topic Previous Meeting Follow-Up 15:05
jsmith Did someone say party? 15:05
tflink a qa party, even :) 15:05
tflink #info adamw or tflink to check status of #810104 with TC5 15:06
adamw tc5? oh, so old. 15:06
tflink this ended up being an issue with a stray buildroot override that was causing problems 15:06
adamw we've tested that since. i filed a pass for it in rc2 matrix i think. 15:06
tflink yep 15:06
adamw and it's closed, so that's all good. 15:07
tflink #info the EFI issues ended up being an issue with the build environment, has been fixed 15:07
tflink #info adamw to create some shared bugzilla searches for F17 final blocker/nth to replace the wiki page 15:07
tflink adamw: any progress on this? 15:07
adamw no, didn't do it yet, sorry 15:09
* tflink wonders if it would be better to just update the blocker wiki page by hand for the next week 15:09
tflink is this still worth doing? 15:10
adamw eh, either way. 15:10
* tflink made some queries that should get proposed/accepted blocker/nth 15:10
adamw it's pretty much empty now anyhow. 15:10
tflink yep, I see 1 proposed blocker, 1 proposed NTH and 9 accepted NTH 15:10
tflink assuming that my searches are correct, anyways 15:11
tflink #action tflink or adamw to keep blocker wiki page updated by hand 15:11
tflink that's all I see for follow-up 15:12
tflink on to ... F17 final planning 15:12
tflink #topic Fedora 17 Final status/planning 15:12
tflink things look pretty good to me at the moment 15:12
tflink we have a couple of bugs to go through for blocker/NTH status 15:13
tflink and one blocker that should be fixed w/ RC2 which needs verification 15:13
tflink so ... mini blocker review time! 15:13
tflink #topic (823189) Non - ejection of Live CD Disk 15:13
tflink #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=823189 15:13
tflink #info Proposed Blocker, NEW 15:13
* tflink is not a huge fan of the comment box movement in the new BZ 15:14
adamw yeah, no. 15:14
kparal it can be adjusted in preferences 15:14
tflink if this had been proposed a while ago ... 15:14
brunowolff I don't even see this as NTH. 15:14
adamw -1/-1. not breaking anything now. 15:14
tflink oh, it can? awesome. 15:14
pschindl -1 blocker 15:15
kparal -1 blocker 15:15
tflink ok, it sounds like a pretty unanimous -1 blocker 15:15
jskladan -1 here 15:15
tflink I'm seeing +1/-2 NTH 15:15
tflink any other votes on that? 15:16
mkrizek -1 blocker 15:16
kparal I'm +1 NTH 15:16
cpuobsessed -1 blocker 15:16
nonamedotc -1 here (first time here!) 15:16
* j_dulaney looks at the bug 15:16
tflink NTH votes (already RejectedBLocker) 15:16
tflink  ? 15:16
tflink +2/-2 at the moment (on NTH) 15:16
kparal it won't be fixed anyway in this short timeframe 15:17
adamw would you really want to take a fix if it was? 15:17
pschindl I'm +1 for NTH 15:17
* tflink is -1 NTH 15:17
cpuobsessed if it's a pref thing than -1 NTH 15:17
nonamedotc +1 for NTH 15:18
kparal it's very late, that's true. can it break something? 15:18
tflink adamw: no, not this late. this is nothing more than an annoyance 15:18
cpuobsessed oh you forget the check the box that says "eject when done" 15:18
adamw it'd be in anaconda, so it could break anything. 15:18
chaosinc -1 blocker, -1 NTH 15:18
brunowolff If the change is going to modify spin-kickstarts then we also would need to rebuild that. 15:18
tflink we seem to be getting +1 NTH as fast as we're getting -1 NTH :) 15:18
tflink +4/-4 NTH 15:18
* j_dulaney cannot find the bug in question 15:19
kparal ok, I change my vote to -1 NTH :) 15:19
tflink +3/-5 NTH 15:19
mkrizek -1 NTH 15:19
kparal j_dulaney: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=823189 15:19
j_dulaney kparal: TY 15:19
brunowolff This is a minor annoyance for people using optical media for live images. At this point in the cycle risking breaking things for this doesn't seem worth it. 15:19
tflink my thoughts exactly 15:19
kparal optical media users, ugh. let them suffer! :)) 15:20
j_dulaney -1 NTH, +1 F18 feature 15:20
tflink proposed #agreed - 823189 - RejectedBlocker, RejectedNTH - Does not hit any of the Fedora 17 release criteria and it's too late in the release cycle to be taking anaconda changes for minor issues that have workarounds (eject by hand). 15:21
pschindl It would be bether, if there wasn't CDs anymore. 15:21
nonamedotc Fair point! Changing vote! -1 for NTH - allowed? :) 15:21
kparal ack 15:21
pschindl ack 15:21
brunowolff I don't think it is really a new feature. I seem to remember that live images were ejected on shutdown in the past. But it has been a while since I did a test with optical media instead of a live usb. 15:21
jskladan ack 15:21
mkrizek ack 15:21
brunowolff ack 15:22
tflink #agreed - 823189 - RejectedBlocker, RejectedNTH - Does not hit any of the Fedora 17 release criteria and it's too late in the release cycle to be taking anaconda changes for minor issues that have workarounds (eject by hand). 15:22
tflink the only other bug is a accepted blocker that should be fixed 15:23
tflink the only other bug that is of concern to a blocker review, I mean 15:23
tflink #topic Fedora 17 Final status/planning 15:24
tflink #info bz#822495 still needs to be verified 15:25
* tflink will take care of that after the meeting unless someone else wants to do it 15:25
j_dulaney I vote that as soon as we declare it Gold, we all get waisted. 15:25
j_dulaney s/waisted/wasted 15:25
tflink waisted? that sounds like a hula-hoop would be involved 15:26
j_dulaney Maybe make it a FAD? 15:26
j_dulaney Hula-hoops are fun! 15:26
tflink the current plan is to submit a request for RC3 later today 15:26
tflink which will take the fixes that were missed for RC2, new spin-kickstarts and no extra overrides 15:27
adamw and possibly gtk3 15:27
adamw if people karma it 15:27
brunowolff So far nobody has changed the f17 branch of spin kickstarts since I did a new package build on Saturday. 15:27
adamw so, test and karma https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/gtk3-3.4.3-2.fc17 15:27
adamw so, no-one touch it! 15:27
tflink brunowolff: cool, the changes we were interested in were before saturday, anyways :) 15:28
brunowolff If only I could enforce that. 15:28
tflink brunowolff: 2x4 with a nail in the end usually works :-P 15:28
* j_dulaney was thinking Tommy Gun 15:29
brunowolff I'm off to my work meeting. 15:29
j_dulaney And a gangster with a New York accent 15:29
tflink #info gtk3-3.4.3-2.fc17 needs karma in order to make it into RC3 15:29
adamw cya bruno 15:29
tflink brunowolff: thanks for coming! 15:29
* j_dulaney updates it to test 15:29
tflink ok, is there anything else F17 release related that we need to cover? 15:30
* tflink takes that as a 'no' 15:31
tflink #topic Upcoming QA events 15:31
tflink #info no test days planned for this week 15:31
tflink #info F17 final go/no-go scheduled for Thursday 2012-05-24 15:32
tflink any other events of note? 15:32
* kparal just noticed gtk3-3.4.3-2.fc17 is not pending any F17 repo 15:32
adamw no, which is why i took it out of the schedule ;) 15:33
adamw go/no-go thursday, again. 15:33
tflink adamw: there was no agenda as of this morning 15:33
tflink ok, sounds like we know what's going on for the schedule 15:34
adamw there was in the email 15:34
tflink good point 15:34
tflink my bad 15:34
adamw i win! 15:34
tflink adamw: not sure I'd take it that far :-P 15:35
tflink anyhow, does anyone have information from the gnome boxes test day last week? 15:35
adamw it looked pretty active for the hour or two i stopped by 15:36
adamw there's six tester results in the matrix and lots of bugs filed 15:36
adamw looks like quite a few of our brnoers dropped by 15:37
tflink hrm, should have changed #topic 15:37
tflink #topic 2012-05-17 Gnome Boxes Test Day Results 15:37
tflink #info 6 testers reported results 15:37
tflink #info 13 bugs referenced 15:37
* j_dulaney is returned 15:39
tflink ok, any AutoQA news? 15:39
tflink #topic AutoQA Update 15:39
tflink #chair kparal 15:39
zodbot Current chairs: adamw kparal tflink 15:39
* tflink doesn't think there's much to say here 15:39
kparal there is just one, handing mic to jskladan 15:39
tflink #chair jskladan 15:39
zodbot Current chairs: adamw jskladan kparal tflink 15:39
jskladan OK, I guess that the only highlight of last week is that I had some time to optimize resultsdb's search speed 15:39
jskladan ** old: http://bit.ly/KKB6ed 15:40
jskladan ** new: http://bit.ly/KBJlsE 15:40
jskladan so it's not so painfully slow as it used to be :) 15:40
jskladan just reasonably slow ;) 15:40
tflink #info jskladan spent time to optimize resultsdb searches and they're much faster now 15:40
adamw so it's mono slow not java slow? ;) 15:40
j_dulaney lulz 15:40
kparal python slow 15:41
jskladan python + mysql slow, to be exact 15:41
ianweller everything is "slow" when there's something faster 15:41
ianweller  :) 15:41
jskladan and that's it for autoqa updates today 15:42
* jskladan handing the microphone back to tflink 15:42
* j_dulaney thought the mysql wasn't really that slow 15:42
j_dulaney Just the Python 15:42
tflink jskladan: cool, good to hear that there's been progress w/ the testing 15:42
* tflink assumes that there are no more AutoQA related updates 15:42
kparal nope 15:43
tflink then it's time for ... 15:43
tflink #topic Open Floor 15:43
tflink Any other topics to bring up? 15:43
j_dulaney Where's our release party going tobe? 15:43
adamw your nearest gutter 15:44
tflink or nearest place to take a nap :) 15:44
j_dulaney Might be a bad idea, I met get run over 15:45
* j_dulaney likes tflink's suggestion 15:45
tflink OK. if there is nothing else, lets get back to wrapping up F17 15:46
* tflink sets fuse for [0,5] minutes 15:46
tflink OK, thanks for coming everyone! 15:49
tflink Let's get F17 out the door! 15:49
tflink #endmeeting 15:49

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