| f13
| ping: jwb rdieter warren wwoods lmacken jeremy notting poelcat spot
| 10:03
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| * jwb is here
| 10:03
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| * spot is hera
| 10:03
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| * poelcat here
| 10:03
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| * notting is here
| 10:03
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| rdieter
| yo
| 10:03
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| * warren here
| 10:03
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| f13
| wow!
| 10:04
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| warren
| ?
| 10:05
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| jwb
| lots of people here
| 10:06
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| f13
| and fast responses
| 10:06
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| f13
| so we're just missing jeremy and wwoods
| 10:06
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| f13
| kind of important to have will for the next part
| 10:07
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| warren
| we need will power?
| 10:07
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| * lmacken is here
| 10:08
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| f13
| sending sms
| 10:09
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| wwoods
| boink
| 10:11
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| -!- f13 changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Fedora releng - Fedora 11 Alpha
| 10:11
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| wwoods
| sorry
| 10:11
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| f13
| Alright, alpha status.
| 10:11
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| wwoods
| writing status reports and junk
| 10:11
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| f13
| Things were pretty OK, minus the two big ticket items, the nash mounting by label/uuid bug, and ppc being DOA
| 10:12
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| f13
| since things were so OK, we talked about a refresh of the freeze tag early this week
| 10:12
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| f13
| (provided rawhide stayed sane)
| 10:12
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| f13
| thus far, rawhide is pretty sane
| 10:12
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| wwoods
| https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=480842
| 10:12
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| buggbot
| Bug 480842: high, low, ---, dwmw2@infradead.org, CLOSED RAWHIDE, F11 Rawhide kernel fails to boot on ppc - /vmlinuz: Not a valid ELF image
| 10:12
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| f13
| and we may have actually fixed ppc
| 10:12
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| wwoods
| and https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=480667
| 10:13
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| buggbot
| Bug 480667: medium, low, ---, pjones@redhat.com, NEW, nash unable to find dm devs by uuid or label causing boot to fail
| 10:13
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| f13
| there were 2 problems with ppc, ppc64 had a bad elf image, and ppc32 had non-working squashfs-utils
| 10:13
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| f13
| jwb got the ppc64 issue squared away, and kylem fixed squashfs for us just today
| 10:13
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| f13
| I've got a test ppc32 tree that jwb and I are going to throw some machines at to see if it's working, tomorrow's rawhide shoudl be an even better test
| 10:13
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| wwoods
| nice
| 10:16
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| wwoods
| any progress on why ppc kernel builds take for-effing-ever?
| 10:16
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| f13
| not sure.
| 10:16
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| f13
| THere is one more bug that has a patch attached to it, and that's the bitmap fonts bug
| 10:16
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| f13
| we should probably poke ajax today and see if we can get a build out for it
| 10:16
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| jwb
| wwoods, i did som
| 10:17
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| jwb
| wwoods, the answer is "rpm debuginfo sucks"
| 10:17
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| jwb
| the actual build time is on par with most of the other arches
| 10:17
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| notting
| f13: are we rebasing or tagging?
| 10:18
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| f13
| notting: will get to that, that's the second agenda item
| 10:18
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| f13
| There is one more thing of note for alpha status. It won't be gpg signed.
| 10:19
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| f13
| gpg signing is a bit up in the air right now, we need bigger bit sigs to comply with the sha-256 mandate, and that's goign to require some buildsystem updates
| 10:19
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| warren
| f13: ajax might not be back from AU
| 10:19
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| f13
| also, I'd like a chance to get sigul running so that we coudl explore reducing our gpg key set
| 10:19
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| f13
| F10 alpha wasn't gpg signed either, so there is some precidence here.
| 10:20
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| jwb
| raise your hand if you care
| 10:20
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| wwoods
| yeah... nope
| 10:20
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| f13
| ok, anything else on current status before we go and change that status with our next topic?
| 10:21
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| -!- f13 changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Fedora releng - Alpha refresh
| 10:23
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| f13
| as I mentioned before, since we're in a good spot, we're considering refreshing the alpha tag
| 10:23
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| f13
| essentially I'd do another koji clone-tag action to bring f11-alpha up to par with dist-f11 late tonight so that Tuesday's rawhide == F11 alpha
| 10:24
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| f13
| and we'd go from there to make the bits to put on the mirrors
| 10:24
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| f13
| in theory we coudl be all wrapped up by late Wed, plenty of time for mirrors to sync
| 10:24
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| warren
| then we all retest that to be sure it installs and boots?
| 10:24
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| notting
| do we have fallback trees in case it goes *bang*?
| 10:24
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| warren
| i'm not against this, just a lot of unknown variables
| 10:24
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| f13
| warren: yes, we'd re-test everything, which we can get through pretty quickly now
| 10:25
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| * stickster adds note to Alpha release notes: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Alpha_release_notes#No_GPG_signatures
| 10:25
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| f13
| notting: yes, we have a mash of the old f11-alpha tag as of last week.
| 10:25
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| dgilmore
| wwoods: FWIW sparc kernel builds take longer
| 10:25
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| dgilmore
| wwoods: there being build -j16 since that the max fedora will use. most of the time is in debuginfo land
| 10:26
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| f13
| notting: it may be a better idea to create f11-alpha-2 and use /that/ for the refresh
| 10:27
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| f13
| notting: giving us f11-alpha to fall back to in case somethign does go bang.
| 10:27
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| dgilmore
| f13: :) sounds sane
| 10:27
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| f13
| in fact, that's what I'll do
| 10:27
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| jwb
| i like that
| 10:27
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| notting
| f13: i agree, although i may be being paranoid
| 10:28
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| f13
| no, I am too
| 10:28
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| wwoods
| I have to admit that my testing has all been rawhide-targeted anyway, so I don't anticipate big surprises
| 10:28
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| wwoods
| but, yeah, better safe than sorry
| 10:28
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| jwb
| did most of the mysql deps get fixed?
| 10:29
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| f13
| Somebody could drop a poop-bomb on us today
| 10:29
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| f13
| jwb: most of it, looks like
| 10:29
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| jwb
| like gcc 4.4?
| 10:29
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| wwoods
| pretty sure we told the right people to hold off on gcc 4.4 until next week(ish)
| 10:29
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| jwb
| aawww
| 10:30
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| jwb
| no fun
| 10:30
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| f13
| heh
| 10:33
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| f13
| jwb: so, if ppc(32) actually looks good today/tomorrow, should we have a ppc alpha?
| 10:33
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| jwb
| probably, but why did you specify 32?
| 10:33
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| f13
| ppc32 was the last problem we had, the squashfs
| 10:34
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| jwb
| well, that was ppc*
| 10:34
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| jwb
| but yeah
| 10:34
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| jwb
| i'll be testing the ppc compose on a ppc64 machine, if that clarifies anything
| 10:35
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| f13
| ok
| 10:37
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| f13
| So then the plan is to create f11-alpha-2 and populate it from dist-f11, at the rawhide compose time tonight (0600 UTC). We'll try to use that as our alpha release, falling back to f11-alpha if necessary
| 10:38
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| f13
| if we fall back, we can still add the relevant ppc fixes to the tag
| 10:38
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| jwb
| aye
| 10:38
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| f13
| Today I'm going to be testing the ppc item, as well as doing full x86 composes from today's rawhide to test locally
| 10:39
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| f13
| I'm also going to do a compsoe in PHX from today's rawhide to prime the mirrors and the magic stage location
| 10:40
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| f13
| Anything else on the refresh topic>
| 10:41
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| f13
| ?
| 10:41
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| warren
| f13: will you fix the fedora-release package before then?
| 10:41
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| warren
| f13: all the broken symlinks
| 10:41
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| f13
| warren: no, as we don't have a key yet to properly point them to
| 10:42
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| warren
| oh
| 10:43
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| -!- f13 changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Fedora rel-eng - Open Floor
| 10:45
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| f13
| ok, open floor for any other topics
| 10:45
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| f13
| alright lets wrap it up and get to work! Thanks all!
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