Talk:FedorianDictionary

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Note that yum list will list installed and not installed packages:

[jjmcd@Conor ~]$ yum list apr*
Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit
Installed Packages
apr.i386                              1.3.3-1.fc10                     installed
apr-util.i386                         1.3.4-1.fc10                     installed
Available Packages
apr-api-docs.noarch                   1.3.3-1.fc10                     fedora   
apr-devel.i386                        1.3.3-1.fc10                     fedora   
apr-util-devel.i386                   1.3.4-1.fc10                     fedora   
apr-util-freetds.i386                 1.3.4-1.fc10                     fedora   
apr-util-ldap.i386                    1.3.4-1.fc10                     fedora   
apr-util-mysql.i386                   1.3.4-1.fc10                     fedora   
apr-util-odbc.i386                    1.3.4-1.fc10                     fedora   
apr-util-pgsql.i386                   1.3.4-1.fc10                     fedora   
apr-util-sqlite.i386                  1.3.4-1.fc10                     fedora   
apricots.i386                         0.2.6-2.fc10                     fedora   
aprsd.i386                            2.2.5-15.5.fc10                  fedora   

and give you a chance to limit the list.

--McD

Thanks

Thanks for that will update next time i sync my open office doc with the wiki

--Ajamison

Make more general & jargon notes

There are a huge number of technical differences and subtleties between any Linux variant. Attempting to enumerate them in one location is a big challenge. In this case, it reads more like a response to, "Should I choose Ubuntu or Fedora?" If answering that question this way, I think the case is already lost in the weeds, that is, taking a technical approach is going to lose users who don't understand, and those who do understand need to do the research themselves.

To be useful to Fedora Ambassadors, this page could focus on how values drive innovation choices. Rather than name other distributions specifically, be general. "If your values are, 'to make the best, just works desktop,' you are going to make different choices in constructing the distro than if your values are, 'be a 100% free, leading, innovating distro,', then your values lead you to different choices." Focus on what Fedora is and let it be self-evident what others are not.

If your goal is to write a How to migrate from Ubuntu to Fedora, then write that page separately, preferably without judgement. That is, write it as a factual how-to rather than explaining why one would make the migration from the specific distro.

The jargon document linked to is deprecated. There may be other efforts on the wiki, which is a better place to explain technical and free software terms. (BTW, the word 'jargon' is itself a bit of jargon and not descriptive.)

--Quaid 14:44, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

Response to Quaid

Good points my man sorry it took so long to respond. I am going to work on redoing this so it flows better in the near future.

The goal here was to have a resource in which users could easily see what command would be equivilant to their own Distros commands. I other words someone who uses Ubuntu but was trying out Fedora might be able to use it as a way to see which rpm based commands would do what apt did in Ubuntu. Of the same example if someone from Fedora wanted to go to say Ubuntu they could see which APT commands would do what RPM did.

It was more of a reference then a migration document but given the wording i can see how you would thing that.

Thanks for the comments

--Ajamison