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# tflink - check alpha/beta/final validation results and ensure bugs are correctly marked as blockers | # tflink - check alpha/beta/final validation results and ensure bugs are correctly marked as blockers | ||
# j_dulaney - check in with anaconda and releng teams on the feasibility of making the rats point (08-31) | # j_dulaney - check in with anaconda and releng teams on the feasibility of making the rats point (08-31) an early TC | ||
# j_dulaney - chair the next meeting | # j_dulaney - chair the next meeting | ||
= IRC Log = | = IRC Log = | ||
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|- id="t15:00:36" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | #startmeeting fedora-qa-meeting | |||
|| [[#t15:00:36|15:00]] | |||
|- id="t15:00:36" | |||
! style="background-color: #42427e" | zodbot | |||
| style="color: #42427e" | Meeting started Mon Aug 22 15:00:36 2011 UTC. The chair is adamw. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | |||
|| [[#t15:00:36|15:00]] | |||
|- id="t15:00:36" | |||
! style="background-color: #42427e" | zodbot | |||
| style="color: #42427e" | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. | |||
|| [[#t15:00:36|15:00]] | |||
|- id="t15:00:40" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | #meetingname fedora-qa-meeting | |||
|| [[#t15:00:40|15:00]] | |||
|- id="t15:00:40" | |||
! style="background-color: #42427e" | zodbot | |||
| style="color: #42427e" | The meeting name has been set to 'fedora-qa-meeting' | |||
|| [[#t15:00:40|15:00]] | |||
|- id="t15:01:35" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | #topic roll call | |||
|| [[#t15:01:35|15:01]] | |||
|- id="t15:01:44" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | hey everyone, is it just me? | |||
|| [[#t15:01:44|15:01]] | |||
|- id="t15:02:02" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | tflink | |||
| style="color: #818144" | yep, meeting for one :-D | |||
|| [[#t15:02:02|15:02]] | |||
|- id="t15:02:24" | |||
| colspan="2" | * mkrizek present | |||
|| [[#t15:02:24|15:02]] | |||
|- id="t15:02:29" | |||
| colspan="2" | * brunowolff is here | |||
|| [[#t15:02:29|15:02]] | |||
|- id="t15:02:38" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | my favourite kind | |||
|| [[#t15:02:38|15:02]] | |||
|- id="t15:02:44" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | tflink | |||
| style="color: #818144" | reaching consensus is much easier when you're by yourself | |||
|| [[#t15:02:44|15:02]] | |||
|- id="t15:02:55" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | all you other kids just screw up my meetings | |||
|| [[#t15:02:55|15:02]] | |||
|- id="t15:03:25" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | tflink | |||
| style="color: #818144" | that's what I'm here for - glad to hear that I'm achieving my purpose | |||
|| [[#t15:03:25|15:03]] | |||
|- id="t15:03:53" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | that's why we pay you the premium peanuts | |||
|| [[#t15:03:53|15:03]] | |||
|- id="t15:04:49" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | #topic previous meeting follow-up | |||
|| [[#t15:04:49|15:04]] | |||
|- id="t15:05:00" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | so this one's pretty light, as last week just turned into a blocker review... | |||
|| [[#t15:05:00|15:05]] | |||
|- id="t15:05:07" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | "robatino, adamw or tflink - do RC4 announcement once the compose is complete" | |||
|| [[#t15:05:07|15:05]] | |||
|- id="t15:05:12" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | and, i'm pretty sure that happened. | |||
|| [[#t15:05:12|15:05]] | |||
|- id="t15:05:24" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | tflink | |||
| style="color: #818144" | that and RC5 | |||
|| [[#t15:05:24|15:05]] | |||
|- id="t15:06:09" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | so yay. | |||
|| [[#t15:06:09|15:06]] | |||
|- id="t15:06:11" | |||
| colspan="2" | * jskladan lurks | |||
|| [[#t15:06:11|15:06]] | |||
|- id="t15:06:21" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | #topic l10n / i18n test week | |||
|| [[#t15:06:21|15:06]] | |||
|- id="t15:06:23" | |||
| colspan="2" | * j_dulaney is here | |||
|| [[#t15:06:23|15:06]] | |||
|- id="t15:06:30" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | hey jays | |||
|| [[#t15:06:30|15:06]] | |||
|- id="t15:06:38" | |||
! style="background-color: #854685" | j_dulaney | |||
| style="color: #854685" | Sorry for the lateness, overslept | |||
|| [[#t15:06:38|15:06]] | |||
|- id="t15:06:53" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | this was scheduled for this week - it's going to be the first major f16 test event - but there's news... | |||
|| [[#t15:06:53|15:06]] | |||
|- id="t15:07:12" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | i don't think anyone involved is around, so i'll pass it on: it's being pushed back a week | |||
|| [[#t15:07:12|15:07]] | |||
|- id="t15:07:24" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | tflink | |||
| style="color: #818144" | aren't we pretty much pushing back all the test days a week? | |||
|| [[#t15:07:24|15:07]] | |||
|- id="t15:07:30" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | that may look like it's going to run into the X.org test week, but that's being pushed back too (by ajax's request) | |||
|| [[#t15:07:30|15:07]] | |||
|- id="t15:07:35" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | no, we don't normally slip the test day schedule | |||
|| [[#t15:07:35|15:07]] | |||
|- id="t15:08:07" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | l10n/i18n is a special case as it relies on something from the main release schedule, a translation test spin, i believe | |||
|| [[#t15:08:07|15:08]] | |||
|- id="t15:08:14" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | so it wouldn't make sense to go ahead with it this week | |||
|| [[#t15:08:14|15:08]] | |||
|- id="t15:08:14" | |||
! style="background-color: #854685" | j_dulaney | |||
| style="color: #854685" | Indeed; I had understood those were the only two tests being pushed back | |||
|| [[#t15:08:14|15:08]] | |||
|- id="t15:08:31" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | yep, so far, anyway. | |||
|| [[#t15:08:31|15:08]] | |||
|- id="t15:09:25" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | #info l10n/i18n test week is being pushed back to next week: 08-30, 08-31, 09-01 | |||
|| [[#t15:09:25|15:09]] | |||
|- id="t15:09:41" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | #info X week is also being pushed back, to 09-06, 09-07, 09-08 | |||
|| [[#t15:09:41|15:09]] | |||
|- id="t15:09:56" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | #info other test days remain in place for now | |||
|| [[#t15:09:56|15:09]] | |||
|- id="t15:10:24" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | i think that'd be all on this topic... | |||
|| [[#t15:10:24|15:10]] | |||
|- id="t15:10:59" | |||
| colspan="2" | * adamw notices he missed one topic. oops. | |||
|| [[#t15:10:59|15:10]] | |||
|- id="t15:11:04" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | #topic alpha preparation | |||
|| [[#t15:11:04|15:11]] | |||
|- id="t15:11:28" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | first up, huge thanks to everyone (even those not present) for all the alpha validation testing...i know that was a lot of RCs! | |||
|| [[#t15:11:28|15:11]] | |||
|- id="t15:11:44" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | it was great work to make sure we didn't have another slip | |||
|| [[#t15:11:44|15:11]] | |||
|- id="t15:12:02" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | tflink | |||
| style="color: #818144" | no kidding | |||
|| [[#t15:12:02|15:12]] | |||
|- id="t15:12:36" | |||
! style="background-color: #854685" | j_dulaney | |||
| style="color: #854685" | Indeed | |||
|| [[#t15:12:36|15:12]] | |||
|- id="t15:12:41" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | so, just wanted a general topic to cover any other work we need to do for alpha, and maybe look forward to beta | |||
|| [[#t15:12:41|15:12]] | |||
|- id="t15:12:58" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | the most obvious thing is to put together the Common Bugs page: i usually work on that, but help is most welcome | |||
|| [[#t15:12:58|15:12]] | |||
|- id="t15:13:12" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | tflink | |||
| style="color: #818144" | yeah, that was the thing I was thinking of | |||
|| [[#t15:13:12|15:13]] | |||
|- id="t15:13:42" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | you can refer to the bugzilla query http://bit.ly/fedora-commonbugs-proposed to find the list of bugs awaiting commonbugs entries (beware there may be one or two stale f15 proposals on there) | |||
|| [[#t15:13:42|15:13]] | |||
|- id="t15:14:27" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | the page will be at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F16_bugs; i haven't put the skeleton up yet but will soon | |||
|| [[#t15:14:27|15:14]] | |||
|- id="t15:14:47" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | there's 'docs' in the page comments about how to format entries on the page | |||
|| [[#t15:14:47|15:14]] | |||
|- id="t15:15:17" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | #info the common bugs page at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F16_bugs will need entries for the bugs on http://bit.ly/fedora-commonbugs-proposed | |||
|| [[#t15:15:17|15:15]] | |||
|- id="t15:15:23" | |||
! style="background-color: #854685" | j_dulaney | |||
| style="color: #854685" | So,just jump in and add stuff? | |||
|| [[#t15:15:23|15:15]] | |||
|- id="t15:15:33" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | yup, that'd be great | |||
|| [[#t15:15:33|15:15]] | |||
|- id="t15:15:35" | |||
! style="background-color: #854685" | j_dulaney | |||
| style="color: #854685" | Curse sticking spacebar | |||
|| [[#t15:15:35|15:15]] | |||
|- id="t15:15:50" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | please ensure all entries have the full allocation of spaces ;) | |||
|| [[#t15:15:50|15:15]] | |||
|- id="t15:16:53" | |||
! style="background-color: #854685" | j_dulaney | |||
| style="color: #854685" | Indeed | |||
|| [[#t15:16:53|15:16]] | |||
|- id="t15:17:17" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | the other thing that seemed a good idea to me would be to go through the alpha rc validation results and check that bugs are appropriately flagged as blockers for future points | |||
|| [[#t15:17:17|15:17]] | |||
|- id="t15:17:29" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | so make sure beta fails are proposed as beta blockers, final fails as final blockers | |||
|| [[#t15:17:29|15:17]] | |||
|- id="t15:17:38" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | anyone want to do that? or think it's a silly idea? | |||
|| [[#t15:17:38|15:17]] | |||
|- id="t15:17:55" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | tflink | |||
| style="color: #818144" | in the meeting or just getting it done? | |||
|| [[#t15:17:55|15:17]] | |||
|- id="t15:18:10" | |||
! style="background-color: #854685" | j_dulaney | |||
| style="color: #854685" | Good idea to get done | |||
|| [[#t15:18:10|15:18]] | |||
|- id="t15:19:03" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | tflink: just seeing if anyone wants to volunteer | |||
|| [[#t15:19:03|15:19]] | |||
|- id="t15:19:17" | |||
| colspan="2" | * rbergeron reads | |||
|| [[#t15:19:17|15:19]] | |||
|- id="t15:19:39" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | tflink | |||
| style="color: #818144" | I can do it if there are no other volunteers | |||
|| [[#t15:19:39|15:19]] | |||
|- id="t15:19:58" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | good volunteerin' there | |||
|| [[#t15:19:58|15:19]] | |||
|- id="t15:20:13" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | #action tflink to check alpha/beta/final validation results and ensure bugs are correctly marked as blockers | |||
|| [[#t15:20:13|15:20]] | |||
|- id="t15:20:31" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | we have the first beta blocker review meeting coming up friday, which i'm sure everyone's looking forward to | |||
|| [[#t15:20:31|15:20]] | |||
|- id="t15:21:08" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | tflink | |||
| style="color: #818144" | as always | |||
|| [[#t15:21:08|15:21]] | |||
|- id="t15:21:13" | |||
! style="background-color: #854685" | j_dulaney | |||
| style="color: #854685" | Is there an RC/TC out? | |||
|| [[#t15:21:13|15:21]] | |||
|- id="t15:21:23" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | j_dulaney: no, beta tc doesn't land for a week or two | |||
|| [[#t15:21:23|15:21]] | |||
|- id="t15:21:25" | |||
| colspan="2" | * adamw checks schedule | |||
|| [[#t15:21:25|15:21]] | |||
|- id="t15:21:45" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | j_dulaney: http://rbergero.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-16/f-16-quality-tasks.html says 09-06 for beta tc | |||
|| [[#t15:21:45|15:21]] | |||
|- id="t15:22:01" | |||
! style="background-color: #854685" | j_dulaney | |||
| style="color: #854685" | Righteo | |||
|| [[#t15:22:01|15:22]] | |||
|- id="t15:22:01" | |||
| colspan="2" | * nirik notes (slightly related) that this mornings branched f16 push pushes things to stable (post freeze), so there's likely to be a bunch of changes/updates after today. | |||
|| [[#t15:22:01|15:22]] | |||
|- id="t15:22:27" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | there's an acceptance test planned for 08-31...as discussed a few weeks back i'd kinda like to turn the acceptance tests into tcs, but probably best to make that an f17 thing | |||
|| [[#t15:22:27|15:22]] | |||
|- id="t15:22:41" | |||
! style="background-color: #854685" | j_dulaney | |||
| style="color: #854685" | What are the chances of a TC being put together sooner? | |||
|| [[#t15:22:41|15:22]] | |||
|- id="t15:23:13" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | well, we could certainly try that if everyone likes the idea | |||
|| [[#t15:23:13|15:23]] | |||
|- id="t15:23:28" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | we'd have to check in with the anaconda team | |||
|| [[#t15:23:28|15:23]] | |||
|- id="t15:23:53" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | the go/no-go is scheduled for 09-21, which would give us two weeks (and a day) of validation testing with a 09-06 tc | |||
|| [[#t15:23:53|15:23]] | |||
|- id="t15:24:03" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | er...I mean check in with releng. but yes, anaconda too. | |||
|| [[#t15:24:03|15:24]] | |||
|- id="t15:24:20" | |||
! style="background-color: #854685" | j_dulaney | |||
| style="color: #854685" | I'm just thinking that the sooner we get started, the better. | |||
|| [[#t15:24:20|15:24]] | |||
|- id="t15:24:47" | |||
! style="background-color: #488888" | nirik | |||
| style="color: #488888" | but if you start too soon, things could change a bunch. ;) | |||
|| [[#t15:24:47|15:24]] | |||
|- id="t15:24:51" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | i certainly agree, but it's not always a great idea to fiddle with the schedule while it's in progress...but then, all it'd really mean is posting some more matrices and calling the rats images tc1 instead | |||
|| [[#t15:24:51|15:24]] | |||
|- id="t15:25:15" | |||
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | brunowolff | |||
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | The 3.1 kernels have not been working well for me, so expect some issues there. | |||
|| [[#t15:25:15|15:25]] | |||
|- id="t15:25:29" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | rbergeron: do you have an opinion on this one? | |||
|| [[#t15:25:29|15:25]] | |||
|- id="t15:25:39" | |||
! style="background-color: #854685" | j_dulaney | |||
| style="color: #854685" | nirik: True, but the sooner we get on it, the better, yes? | |||
|| [[#t15:25:39|15:25]] | |||
|- id="t15:25:48" | |||
! style="background-color: #4b904b" | rbergeron | |||
| style="color: #4b904b" | adamw: /me reads up, was in another meeting | |||
|| [[#t15:25:48|15:25]] | |||
|- id="t15:25:52" | |||
! style="background-color: #854685" | j_dulaney | |||
| style="color: #854685" | Ugh, space bar slowing down typing | |||
|| [[#t15:25:52|15:25]] | |||
|- id="t15:26:26" | |||
! style="background-color: #4b904b" | rbergeron | |||
| style="color: #4b904b" | yeah, i'm not a fan of "fiddle with the schedule while in progress" - and honestly, the problems we *usually* have are in alpha, not beta, when we're trying to get the TC/RC put together | |||
|| [[#t15:26:26|15:26]] | |||
|- id="t15:26:39" | |||
! style="background-color: #4b904b" | rbergeron | |||
| style="color: #4b904b" | but yes - i mean, we could call earlier images tc's instead. | |||
|| [[#t15:26:39|15:26]] | |||
|- id="t15:26:56" | |||
! style="background-color: #4b904b" | rbergeron | |||
| style="color: #4b904b" | I hate to just *do that* without feeling other folks out, though. | |||
|| [[#t15:26:56|15:26]] | |||
|- id="t15:27:05" | |||
! style="background-color: #4b904b" | rbergeron | |||
| style="color: #4b904b" | Unless we have a specific problem we're trying to solve. | |||
|| [[#t15:27:05|15:27]] | |||
|- id="t15:27:18" | |||
! style="background-color: #4b904b" | rbergeron | |||
| style="color: #4b904b" | Or avoid. | |||
|| [[#t15:27:18|15:27]] | |||
|- id="t15:27:22" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | rbergeron: i think the specific problem is mostly 'crap, let's not slip again' =) | |||
|| [[#t15:27:22|15:27]] | |||
|- id="t15:27:28" | |||
! style="background-color: #4b904b" | rbergeron | |||
| style="color: #4b904b" | yeah. | |||
|| [[#t15:27:28|15:27]] | |||
|- id="t15:27:33" | |||
! style="background-color: #854685" | j_dulaney | |||
| style="color: #854685" | adamw +1 | |||
|| [[#t15:27:33|15:27]] | |||
|- id="t15:27:37" | |||
! style="background-color: #4b904b" | rbergeron | |||
| style="color: #4b904b" | We *always* slip at Alpha, we don't always slip at Beta. | |||
|| [[#t15:27:37|15:27]] | |||
|- id="t15:27:45" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | yeah. | |||
|| [[#t15:27:45|15:27]] | |||
|- id="t15:28:02" | |||
! style="background-color: #4b904b" | rbergeron | |||
| style="color: #4b904b" | Also - we can add all hte bugffer time in the universe, but it really comes down to people pushing $whatever in at the last second. | |||
|| [[#t15:28:02|15:28]] | |||
|- id="t15:28:21" | |||
! style="background-color: #4b904b" | rbergeron | |||
| style="color: #4b904b" | sooo | |||
|| [[#t15:28:21|15:28]] | |||
|- id="t15:28:41" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | rbergeron: well, it usually comes down to that because we don't identify the blocker that's getting fixed till 'last second minus two seconds' | |||
|| [[#t15:28:41|15:28]] | |||
|- id="t15:28:45" | |||
! style="background-color: #4b904b" | rbergeron | |||
| style="color: #4b904b" | right | |||
|| [[#t15:28:45|15:28]] | |||
|- id="t15:28:46" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | to be fair | |||
|| [[#t15:28:46|15:28]] | |||
|- id="t15:28:53" | |||
! style="background-color: #4b904b" | rbergeron | |||
| style="color: #4b904b" | well | |||
|| [[#t15:28:53|15:28]] | |||
|- id="t15:28:57" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | i do think extra tc time will help at alpha especially, and it can't really hurt at beta / final | |||
|| [[#t15:28:57|15:28]] | |||
|- id="t15:29:10" | |||
! style="background-color: #854685" | j_dulaney | |||
| style="color: #854685" | Indeed | |||
|| [[#t15:29:10|15:29]] | |||
|- id="t15:29:22" | |||
! style="background-color: #4b904b" | rbergeron | |||
| style="color: #4b904b" | my point is - I feel in some ways like the last second stuff always happens at the last second, no matter what, but maybe some buffer might help. | |||
|| [[#t15:29:22|15:29]] | |||
|- id="t15:29:24" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | it's just a question of any practical issues with it, and whether we really want to do all that testing...j_dulaney seems enthusiastic, though | |||
|| [[#t15:29:24|15:29]] | |||
|- id="t15:29:30" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | whatever meds you're on, i want some =) | |||
|| [[#t15:29:30|15:29]] | |||
|- id="t15:29:32" | |||
! style="background-color: #4b904b" | rbergeron | |||
| style="color: #4b904b" | And it's not like we're blowing a perfect schedule thus far. | |||
|| [[#t15:29:32|15:29]] | |||
|- id="t15:29:44" | |||
! style="background-color: #4b904b" | rbergeron | |||
| style="color: #4b904b" | If we try it with Beta, and it doesn't work. :) | |||
|| [[#t15:29:44|15:29]] | |||
|- id="t15:29:45" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | so, let's see... | |||
|| [[#t15:29:45|15:29]] | |||
|- id="t15:29:56" | |||
! style="background-color: #854685" | j_dulaney | |||
| style="color: #854685" | adamw: You don't want these. | |||
|| [[#t15:29:56|15:29]] | |||
|- id="t15:29:58" | |||
| colspan="2" | * adamw is cautiously in favour, j_dulaney is in favour | |||
|| [[#t15:29:58|15:29]] | |||
|- id="t15:30:19" | |||
! style="background-color: #854685" | j_dulaney | |||
| style="color: #854685" | adamw: My meds keep me out of the nut house; they'd put normal people in the nut house | |||
|| [[#t15:30:19|15:30]] | |||
|- id="t15:30:21" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | nirik: tflink: brunowolff: anyone else I missed: do you have votes? | |||
|| [[#t15:30:21|15:30]] | |||
|- id="t15:30:29" | |||
! style="background-color: #4b904b" | rbergeron | |||
| style="color: #4b904b" | WRT "all that testing" - if we're thinking about doing this permanently, we'd want to make sure we always have someone with whatever meds j_dulaney has. | |||
|| [[#t15:30:29|15:30]] | |||
|- id="t15:30:30" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | j_dulaney: whatever gave you the impression I was normal? | |||
|| [[#t15:30:30|15:30]] | |||
|- id="t15:30:46" | |||
! style="background-color: #4b904b" | rbergeron | |||
| style="color: #4b904b" | Otherwise it doesn't work out so well. | |||
|| [[#t15:30:46|15:30]] | |||
|- id="t15:30:50" | |||
! style="background-color: #854685" | j_dulaney | |||
| style="color: #854685" | adamw: true | |||
|| [[#t15:30:50|15:30]] | |||
|- id="t15:30:57" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | tflink | |||
| style="color: #818144" | I'm not against starting with the testing earlier | |||
|| [[#t15:30:57|15:30]] | |||
|- id="t15:31:02" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | rbergeron: right, although i'd also thought along those lines that if we don't get every single test done for tc1 out of 4 (or whatever it turns out to be), that ain't the end of the world. | |||
|| [[#t15:31:02|15:31]] | |||
|- id="t15:31:02" | |||
| colspan="2" | * nirik doesn't care what we call it. ;) | |||
|| [[#t15:31:02|15:31]] | |||
|- id="t15:31:04" | |||
! style="background-color: #4b904b" | rbergeron | |||
| style="color: #4b904b" | I'm kosher with giving it a shot, I don't see a problem with it. | |||
|| [[#t15:31:04|15:31]] | |||
|- id="t15:31:06" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | tflink | |||
| style="color: #818144" | as long as we have the people to do it :) | |||
|| [[#t15:31:06|15:31]] | |||
|- id="t15:31:18" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | tflink | |||
| style="color: #818144" | TC/RATS ... whatever we want to call it | |||
|| [[#t15:31:18|15:31]] | |||
|- id="t15:31:20" | |||
! style="background-color: #4b904b" | rbergeron | |||
| style="color: #4b904b" | Maybe we call it a validation compose. ;) | |||
|| [[#t15:31:20|15:31]] | |||
|- id="t15:31:23" | |||
! style="background-color: #4b904b" | rbergeron | |||
| style="color: #4b904b" | lol | |||
|| [[#t15:31:23|15:31]] | |||
|- id="t15:31:25" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | heh. | |||
|| [[#t15:31:25|15:31]] | |||
|- id="t15:31:28" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | tflink | |||
| style="color: #818144" | TTC? | |||
|| [[#t15:31:28|15:31]] | |||
|- id="t15:31:34" | |||
! style="background-color: #4b904b" | rbergeron | |||
| style="color: #4b904b" | T2C! | |||
|| [[#t15:31:34|15:31]] | |||
|- id="t15:31:35" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | EYBC | |||
|| [[#t15:31:35|15:31]] | |||
|- id="t15:31:38" | |||
! style="background-color: #4b904b" | rbergeron | |||
| style="color: #4b904b" | Whatever. I say we go for it | |||
|| [[#t15:31:38|15:31]] | |||
|- id="t15:31:39" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | (eats your babies candidate) | |||
|| [[#t15:31:39|15:31]] | |||
|- id="t15:31:42" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | okay | |||
|| [[#t15:31:42|15:31]] | |||
|- id="t15:31:53" | |||
| colspan="2" | * jskladan is sorry, internet connection died on me :-/ | |||
|| [[#t15:31:53|15:31]] | |||
|- id="t15:31:54" | |||
! style="background-color: #854685" | j_dulaney | |||
| style="color: #854685" | HH2G | |||
|| [[#t15:31:54|15:31]] | |||
|- id="t15:32:02" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | so in practice that would just entail putting the rats image out on dl.fp.o and printing some matrices, really. it's not a big change. | |||
|| [[#t15:32:02|15:32]] | |||
|- id="t15:32:09" | |||
! style="background-color: #4b904b" | rbergeron | |||
| style="color: #4b904b" | Right. | |||
|| [[#t15:32:09|15:32]] | |||
|- id="t15:32:15" | |||
! style="background-color: #854685" | j_dulaney | |||
| style="color: #854685" | Indeed | |||
|| [[#t15:32:15|15:32]] | |||
|- id="t15:32:17" | |||
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | brunowolff | |||
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | I think being proactive in finding blockers earlier rather than later is good, but i am not sure if early TCs are needed. | |||
|| [[#t15:32:17|15:32]] | |||
|- id="t15:32:24" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | so...how about someone checks in with anaconda and releng teams and makes sure it's okay by them? and if they say yes, we go ahead | |||
|| [[#t15:32:24|15:32]] | |||
|- id="t15:32:36" | |||
| colspan="2" | * j_dulaney had been testing Rawhide with the nightlies in a VM | |||
|| [[#t15:32:36|15:32]] | |||
|- id="t15:32:49" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | j_dulaney: the nightlies are f16 not rawhide, i believe | |||
|| [[#t15:32:49|15:32]] | |||
|- id="t15:32:53" | |||
! style="background-color: #854685" | j_dulaney | |||
| style="color: #854685" | adamw: I can do that | |||
|| [[#t15:32:53|15:32]] | |||
|- id="t15:33:05" | |||
| colspan="2" | * j_dulaney speaks of prior to branch | |||
|| [[#t15:33:05|15:33]] | |||
|- id="t15:33:09" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | ah i see | |||
|| [[#t15:33:09|15:33]] | |||
|- id="t15:33:14" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | okay | |||
|| [[#t15:33:14|15:33]] | |||
|- id="t15:33:45" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | #action j_dulaney to check in with anaconda and releng teams on the feasibility of making the rats point (08-31) an early tc | |||
|| [[#t15:33:45|15:33]] | |||
|- id="t15:33:50" | |||
| colspan="2" | * rbergeron goes to take people for education, brb. | |||
|| [[#t15:33:50|15:33]] | |||
|- id="t15:34:02" | |||
| colspan="2" | * rbergeron applays adamw's bus-under-throwing, nice work | |||
|| [[#t15:34:02|15:34]] | |||
|- id="t15:34:03" | |||
! style="background-color: #4b904b" | rbergeron | |||
| style="color: #4b904b" | ;) | |||
|| [[#t15:34:03|15:34]] | |||
|- id="t15:34:05" | |||
! style="background-color: #4b904b" | rbergeron | |||
| style="color: #4b904b" | applauds | |||
|| [[#t15:34:05|15:34]] | |||
|- id="t15:34:09" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | if you could update us on the list that'd be great - next meeting might be a bit tight | |||
|| [[#t15:34:09|15:34]] | |||
|- id="t15:34:10" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | rbergeron: heh | |||
|| [[#t15:34:10|15:34]] | |||
|- id="t15:34:50" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | or we could discuss it at the open discussion bit of the blocker meeting, everyone's always eager to extend those meetings, right?! | |||
|| [[#t15:34:50|15:34]] | |||
|- id="t15:34:51" | |||
! style="background-color: #854685" | j_dulaney | |||
| style="color: #854685" | adamw: Indeed | |||
|| [[#t15:34:51|15:34]] | |||
|- id="t15:35:00" | |||
! style="background-color: #854685" | j_dulaney | |||
| style="color: #854685" | Nope | |||
|| [[#t15:35:00|15:35]] | |||
|- id="t15:35:15" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | tflink | |||
| style="color: #818144" | adamw: no, not really | |||
|| [[#t15:35:15|15:35]] | |||
|- id="t15:35:39" | |||
| colspan="2" | * j_dulaney will have trouble enough with making blockers, if they go over they'll be blocking class. This is not cool | |||
|| [[#t15:35:39|15:35]] | |||
|- id="t15:35:59" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | heh | |||
|| [[#t15:35:59|15:35]] | |||
|- id="t15:36:10" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | so, list update it is | |||
|| [[#t15:36:10|15:36]] | |||
|- id="t15:36:30" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | alright...do we have any other post-alpha / pre-beta stuff to discuss? | |||
|| [[#t15:36:30|15:36]] | |||
|- id="t15:37:14" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | oh, hey, i have one! | |||
|| [[#t15:37:14|15:37]] | |||
|- id="t15:37:25" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | looking at the retrospective, one of the points is about the tc images being delayed | |||
|| [[#t15:37:25|15:37]] | |||
|- id="t15:37:37" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | tflink | |||
| style="color: #818144" | the F15 retrospective? | |||
|| [[#t15:37:37|15:37]] | |||
|- id="t15:37:44" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | tflink | |||
| style="color: #818144" | or the new F16 one? | |||
|| [[#t15:37:44|15:37]] | |||
|- id="t15:37:46" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | not that old thing, the new new one | |||
|| [[#t15:37:46|15:37]] | |||
|- id="t15:37:57" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | it might be good for us to have a tc shepherd poking releng with a stick when it comes to image compose time | |||
|| [[#t15:37:57|15:37]] | |||
|- id="t15:38:07" | |||
! style="background-color: #854685" | j_dulaney | |||
| style="color: #854685" | Alpha TC1 for F16 comes to mind | |||
|| [[#t15:38:07|15:38]] | |||
|- id="t15:38:17" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | right | |||
|| [[#t15:38:17|15:38]] | |||
|- id="t15:38:30" | |||
| colspan="2" | * tflink doesn't quite understand what you're proposing | |||
|| [[#t15:38:30|15:38]] | |||
|- id="t15:38:33" | |||
! style="background-color: #854685" | j_dulaney | |||
| style="color: #854685" | adamw: I could do that this round; can't say I'll do it for the future | |||
|| [[#t15:38:33|15:38]] | |||
|- id="t15:38:42" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | j_dulaney: i think we'd best not overload your plate :) | |||
|| [[#t15:38:42|15:38]] | |||
|- id="t15:38:46" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | tflink | |||
| style="color: #818144" | you mean someone that pesters releng to make sure that their issues are being taken care of? | |||
|| [[#t15:38:46|15:38]] | |||
|- id="t15:39:01" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | tflink | |||
| style="color: #818144" | or whatever you want to call what happened with the alpha tc | |||
|| [[#t15:39:01|15:39]] | |||
|- id="t15:39:04" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | tflink: really, just someone to file the ticket requesting tc1 and then posts to it to ensure the delivery | |||
|| [[#t15:39:04|15:39]] | |||
|- id="t15:39:10" | |||
! style="background-color: #488888" | nirik | |||
| style="color: #488888" | I think alpha creeps up on everyone... | |||
|| [[#t15:39:10|15:39]] | |||
|- id="t15:39:12" | |||
! style="background-color: #854685" | j_dulaney | |||
| style="color: #854685" | adamw: Since I'm going to be poking them anyway, I could include it in the same emails | |||
|| [[#t15:39:12|15:39]] | |||
|- id="t15:39:23" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | nothing too heavy-handed, maybe just a post a day or two before the scheduled date, and of course post again on the date if the images don't show up | |||
|| [[#t15:39:23|15:39]] | |||
|- id="t15:39:32" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | nirik: yeah, it tends to | |||
|| [[#t15:39:32|15:39]] | |||
|- id="t15:39:45" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | it's an idea, if no-one likes it, never mind | |||
|| [[#t15:39:45|15:39]] | |||
|- id="t15:40:14" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | tflink | |||
| style="color: #818144" | it would be nice to avoid another week delay in tc | |||
|| [[#t15:40:14|15:40]] | |||
|- id="t15:40:24" | |||
! style="background-color: #854685" | j_dulaney | |||
| style="color: #854685" | Indeed | |||
|| [[#t15:40:24|15:40]] | |||
|- id="t15:40:36" | |||
| colspan="2" | * tflink isn't pointing fingers, though | |||
|| [[#t15:40:36|15:40]] | |||
|- id="t15:41:00" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | no, none of that | |||
|| [[#t15:41:00|15:41]] | |||
|- id="t15:41:14" | |||
! style="background-color: #854685" | j_dulaney | |||
| style="color: #854685" | Maybe doing it for F17 wouldn't be too bad, though | |||
|| [[#t15:41:14|15:41]] | |||
|- id="t15:41:24" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | ok | |||
|| [[#t15:41:24|15:41]] | |||
|- id="t15:41:43" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | doesn't seem anyone's that enthusiastic, so let's leave it | |||
|| [[#t15:41:43|15:41]] | |||
|- id="t15:42:03" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | soo... | |||
|| [[#t15:42:03|15:42]] | |||
|- id="t15:42:07" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | #topic AutoQA update | |||
|| [[#t15:42:07|15:42]] | |||
|- id="t15:42:13" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | do we have anyone from autoqa to take the floor? | |||
|| [[#t15:42:13|15:42]] | |||
|- id="t15:42:57" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | tflink | |||
| style="color: #818144" | kparal is gone this week and I've been spending most of my time on other things ... jskladan ? | |||
|| [[#t15:42:57|15:42]] | |||
|- id="t15:42:59" | |||
! style="background-color: #854685" | j_dulaney | |||
| style="color: #854685" | tflink: I've sent you an email with the test suit | |||
|| [[#t15:42:59|15:42]] | |||
|- id="t15:43:07" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | tflink | |||
| style="color: #818144" | j_dulaney: awesome | |||
|| [[#t15:43:07|15:43]] | |||
|- id="t15:43:24" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | we're getting test suits now? | |||
|| [[#t15:43:24|15:43]] | |||
|- id="t15:43:25" | |||
! style="background-color: #854685" | j_dulaney | |||
| style="color: #854685" | It's gzipped | |||
|| [[#t15:43:25|15:43]] | |||
|- id="t15:43:27" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | why wasn't i told? | |||
|| [[#t15:43:27|15:43]] | |||
|- id="t15:43:44" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | tflink | |||
| style="color: #818144" | adamw: because we knew you'd object | |||
|| [[#t15:43:44|15:43]] | |||
|- id="t15:43:53" | |||
! style="background-color: #854685" | j_dulaney | |||
| style="color: #854685" | adamw: the mock infranstructure and testing mechanism | |||
|| [[#t15:43:53|15:43]] | |||
|- id="t15:44:03" | |||
! style="background-color: #854685" | j_dulaney | |||
| style="color: #854685" | For testing AutoQA | |||
|| [[#t15:44:03|15:44]] | |||
|- id="t15:44:05" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | j_dulaney: just making a joke about the missing e :) | |||
|| [[#t15:44:05|15:44]] | |||
|- id="t15:44:17" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | tflink | |||
| style="color: #818144" | j_dulaney: I'll keep an eye out for it, I haven't seen anything yet | |||
|| [[#t15:44:17|15:44]] | |||
|- id="t15:44:17" | |||
! style="background-color: #854685" | j_dulaney | |||
| style="color: #854685" | Doh | |||
|| [[#t15:44:17|15:44]] | |||
|- id="t15:44:36" | |||
! style="background-color: #854685" | j_dulaney | |||
| style="color: #854685" | tflink: for some reason, Github doesn't like me | |||
|| [[#t15:44:36|15:44]] | |||
|- id="t15:44:47" | |||
! style="background-color: #854685" | j_dulaney | |||
| style="color: #854685" | I can't commit even to my own repository | |||
|| [[#t15:44:47|15:44]] | |||
|- id="t15:44:47" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | tflink | |||
| style="color: #818144" | :-/ | |||
|| [[#t15:44:47|15:44]] | |||
|- id="t15:45:01" | |||
! style="background-color: #854685" | j_dulaney | |||
| style="color: #854685" | So, I gave up on it | |||
|| [[#t15:45:01|15:45]] | |||
|- id="t15:45:06" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | jskladan: alive? | |||
|| [[#t15:45:06|15:45]] | |||
|- id="t15:45:42" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | tflink | |||
| style="color: #818144" | I think that we were spending more time on testing alpha last week than autoqa development | |||
|| [[#t15:45:42|15:45]] | |||
|- id="t15:45:50" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | tflink | |||
| style="color: #818144" | but I'll see how far off I am on this :) | |||
|| [[#t15:45:50|15:45]] | |||
|- id="t15:46:19" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | tflink | |||
| style="color: #818144" | mkrizek has been working to get more of our dependencies into fedora (yourls, autoqa) | |||
|| [[#t15:46:19|15:46]] | |||
|- id="t15:46:37" | |||
! style="background-color: #854685" | j_dulaney | |||
| style="color: #854685" | tflink: True; I did almost nothing AutoQA related last week | |||
|| [[#t15:46:37|15:46]] | |||
|- id="t15:46:39" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | #chair tflink | |||
|| [[#t15:46:39|15:46]] | |||
|- id="t15:46:39" | |||
! style="background-color: #42427e" | zodbot | |||
| style="color: #42427e" | Current chairs: adamw tflink | |||
|| [[#t15:46:39|15:46]] | |||
|- id="t15:46:50" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | #info "I think that we were spending more time on testing alpha last week than autoqa development" | |||
|| [[#t15:46:50|15:46]] | |||
|- id="t15:47:42" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | tflink | |||
| style="color: #818144" | # info inching towards getting the rest of AutoQA's dependencies packaged in fedora | |||
|| [[#t15:47:42|15:47]] | |||
|- id="t15:47:47" | |||
! style="background-color: #854685" | j_dulaney | |||
| style="color: #854685" | tflink: I included a text file on how to put together tests (how to do the config file, where to put RPMs to test, etc) | |||
|| [[#t15:47:47|15:47]] | |||
|- id="t15:47:50" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | tflink | |||
| style="color: #818144" | #info inching towards getting the rest of AutoQA's dependencies packaged in fedora | |||
|| [[#t15:47:50|15:47]] | |||
|- id="t15:48:19" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | tflink | |||
| style="color: #818144" | #info j_dulaney has been working on the self test portions of AutoQA | |||
|| [[#t15:48:19|15:48]] | |||
|- id="t15:48:22" | |||
! style="background-color: #854685" | j_dulaney | |||
| style="color: #854685" | So, now we need to start thinking up tests to run on AutoQA | |||
|| [[#t15:48:22|15:48]] | |||
|- id="t15:48:51" | |||
! style="background-color: #854685" | j_dulaney | |||
| style="color: #854685" | I've got a few ideas I'll be putting on the ticket sometime this week | |||
|| [[#t15:48:51|15:48]] | |||
|- id="t15:49:13" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | tflink | |||
| style="color: #818144" | We'll be pushing forward with the features planned for 0.7.0 but other than that, will be testing F16 | |||
|| [[#t15:49:13|15:49]] | |||
|- id="t15:49:14" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | do we have any roadblocks with the packaging stuff? did the sponsor issue work out? | |||
|| [[#t15:49:14|15:49]] | |||
|- id="t15:49:34" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | tflink | |||
| style="color: #818144" | mkrizek would know for certain but I believe so, yes | |||
|| [[#t15:49:34|15:49]] | |||
|- id="t15:50:03" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | great | |||
|| [[#t15:50:03|15:50]] | |||
|- id="t15:50:05" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | tflink | |||
| style="color: #818144" | I don't believe that we have any new roadblocks for packaging, autotest just isn't going to be easy :) | |||
|| [[#t15:50:05|15:50]] | |||
|- id="t15:50:16" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | tflink | |||
| style="color: #818144" | how's that for a disorganized and long status? | |||
|| [[#t15:50:16|15:50]] | |||
|- id="t15:50:39" | |||
! style="background-color: #854685" | j_dulaney | |||
| style="color: #854685" | Indeed | |||
|| [[#t15:50:39|15:50]] | |||
|- id="t15:50:42" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | 10/10! | |||
|| [[#t15:50:42|15:50]] | |||
|- id="t15:50:47" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | tflink | |||
| style="color: #818144" | sweet | |||
|| [[#t15:50:47|15:50]] | |||
|- id="t15:51:05" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | keep us all in the loop with any packaging issues, i'm sure we can handle reviews at least among the rest of the group | |||
|| [[#t15:51:05|15:51]] | |||
|- id="t15:51:28" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | tflink | |||
| style="color: #818144" | will do | |||
|| [[#t15:51:28|15:51]] | |||
|- id="t15:51:40" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | #info "We'll be pushing forward with the features planned for 0.7.0 but other than that, will be testing F16" | |||
|| [[#t15:51:40|15:51]] | |||
|- id="t15:51:51" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | #topic open discussion | |||
|| [[#t15:51:51|15:51]] | |||
|- id="t15:51:58" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | okay...so, anything i missed? there's gotta b | |||
|| [[#t15:51:58|15:51]] | |||
|- id="t15:51:58" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | e | |||
|| [[#t15:51:58|15:51]] | |||
|- id="t15:52:43" | |||
! style="background-color: #854685" | j_dulaney | |||
| style="color: #854685" | ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^B^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ | |||
|| [[#t15:52:43|15:52]] | |||
|- id="t15:52:47" | |||
! style="background-color: #854685" | j_dulaney | |||
| style="color: #854685" | ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ | |||
|| [[#t15:52:47|15:52]] | |||
|- id="t15:53:03" | |||
! style="background-color: #854685" | j_dulaney | |||
| style="color: #854685" | A 'B' in the carrot patch | |||
|| [[#t15:53:03|15:53]] | |||
|- id="t15:54:16" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | man, we're dying out here | |||
|| [[#t15:54:16|15:54]] | |||
|- id="t15:54:18" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | someone tell a joke | |||
|| [[#t15:54:18|15:54]] | |||
|- id="t15:54:51" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | tflink | |||
| style="color: #818144" | two men walked into a bar ... the third one ducked | |||
|| [[#t15:54:51|15:54]] | |||
|- id="t15:54:58" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | ba-dum *tish* | |||
|| [[#t15:54:58|15:54]] | |||
|- id="t15:55:04" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | play us off, stan | |||
|| [[#t15:55:04|15:55]] | |||
|- id="t15:55:13" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | *dances off stage sideways with cane* | |||
|| [[#t15:55:13|15:55]] | |||
|- id="t15:55:20" | |||
! style="background-color: #854685" | j_dulaney | |||
| style="color: #854685" | So, a Microsoft Programmer, an Apple Programmer, and a Linux hacker walk into a library | |||
|| [[#t15:55:20|15:55]] | |||
|- id="t15:55:43" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | oh boy, should we stop you before the lawyers wake up? =) | |||
|| [[#t15:55:43|15:55]] | |||
|- id="t15:55:52" | |||
! style="background-color: #854685" | j_dulaney | |||
| style="color: #854685" | Probably | |||
|| [[#t15:55:52|15:55]] | |||
|- id="t15:56:13" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | hehe | |||
|| [[#t15:56:13|15:56]] | |||
|- id="t15:56:19" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | i guess that's it then... | |||
|| [[#t15:56:19|15:56]] | |||
|- id="t15:56:42" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | everyone look out for the blocker meeting friday, and a rats run or tc image the following week | |||
|| [[#t15:56:42|15:56]] | |||
|- id="t15:57:13" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | oh | |||
|| [[#t15:57:13|15:57]] | |||
|- id="t15:57:21" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | does anyone want to chair the next meeting? next week, same time, same place? | |||
|| [[#t15:57:21|15:57]] | |||
|- id="t15:57:28" | |||
! style="background-color: #854685" | j_dulaney | |||
| style="color: #854685" | Right | |||
|| [[#t15:57:28|15:57]] | |||
|- id="t15:58:30" | |||
| colspan="2" | * j_dulaney is available | |||
|| [[#t15:58:30|15:58]] | |||
|- id="t15:58:53" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | #action j_dulaney to chair the next meeting | |||
|| [[#t15:58:53|15:58]] | |||
|- id="t15:58:55" | |||
! style="background-color: #854685" | j_dulaney | |||
| style="color: #854685" | As long as I get to class by 1 PM | |||
|| [[#t15:58:55|15:58]] | |||
|- id="t15:59:04" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | thanks jay! you know the location of the meeting SOP, right? | |||
|| [[#t15:59:04|15:59]] | |||
|- id="t15:59:50" | |||
! style="background-color: #854685" | j_dulaney | |||
| style="color: #854685" | Indeed | |||
|| [[#t15:59:50|15:59]] | |||
|- id="t16:00:10" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | cool | |||
|| [[#t16:00:10|16:00]] | |||
|- id="t16:00:14" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | thanks for coming, everyone | |||
|| [[#t16:00:14|16:00]] | |||
|- id="t16:00:16" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | #endmeeting | |||
|| [[#t16:00:16|16:00]] | |||
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Attendees
- adamw (128)
- j_dulaney (54)
- tflink (40)
- rbergeron (28)
- nirik (4)
- zodbot (4)
- brunowolff (3)
- jskladan (2)
- mkrizek (1)
Agenda
Previous meeting follow-up
- Alpha RC4 announcement - done by robatino
l10n / i18n test week
- l10n/i18n test week is being pushed back to next week: 08-30, 08-31, 09-01
- X week is also being pushed back, to 09-06, 09-07, 09-08
- other test days remain in place for now
alpha preparation
- the common bugs page at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F16_bugs will need entries for the bugs on http://bit.ly/fedora-commonbugs-proposed
- "the other thing that seemed a good idea to me would be to go through the alpha rc validation results and check that bugs are appropriately flagged as blockers for future points"
- meeting generally in favour of trying to turn 08-31 RATS event into TC1
- "it might be good for us to have a tc shepherd poking releng with a stick when it comes to image compose time - really, just someone to file the ticket requesting tc1 and then posts to it to ensure the delivery"
AutoQA update
- j_dulaney sent tflink his work on the autoqa self-test suite
- mkrizek has been working to get more of our dependencies into fedora (yourls, autoqa)
- We'll be pushing forward with the features planned for 0.7.0 but other than that, will be testing F16
Next meeting
- 2011-08-29 - 15:00 UTC chaired by j_dulaney
Action Items
- tflink - check alpha/beta/final validation results and ensure bugs are correctly marked as blockers
- j_dulaney - check in with anaconda and releng teams on the feasibility of making the rats point (08-31) an early TC
- j_dulaney - chair the next meeting
IRC Log
adamw | #startmeeting fedora-qa-meeting | 15:00 |
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zodbot | Meeting started Mon Aug 22 15:00:36 2011 UTC. The chair is adamw. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
zodbot | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. | 15:00 |
adamw | #meetingname fedora-qa-meeting | 15:00 |
zodbot | The meeting name has been set to 'fedora-qa-meeting' | 15:00 |
adamw | #topic roll call | 15:01 |
adamw | hey everyone, is it just me? | 15:01 |
tflink | yep, meeting for one :-D | 15:02 |
* mkrizek present | 15:02 | |
* brunowolff is here | 15:02 | |
adamw | my favourite kind | 15:02 |
tflink | reaching consensus is much easier when you're by yourself | 15:02 |
adamw | all you other kids just screw up my meetings | 15:02 |
tflink | that's what I'm here for - glad to hear that I'm achieving my purpose | 15:03 |
adamw | that's why we pay you the premium peanuts | 15:03 |
adamw | #topic previous meeting follow-up | 15:04 |
adamw | so this one's pretty light, as last week just turned into a blocker review... | 15:05 |
adamw | "robatino, adamw or tflink - do RC4 announcement once the compose is complete" | 15:05 |
adamw | and, i'm pretty sure that happened. | 15:05 |
tflink | that and RC5 | 15:05 |
adamw | so yay. | 15:06 |
* jskladan lurks | 15:06 | |
adamw | #topic l10n / i18n test week | 15:06 |
* j_dulaney is here | 15:06 | |
adamw | hey jays | 15:06 |
j_dulaney | Sorry for the lateness, overslept | 15:06 |
adamw | this was scheduled for this week - it's going to be the first major f16 test event - but there's news... | 15:06 |
adamw | i don't think anyone involved is around, so i'll pass it on: it's being pushed back a week | 15:07 |
tflink | aren't we pretty much pushing back all the test days a week? | 15:07 |
adamw | that may look like it's going to run into the X.org test week, but that's being pushed back too (by ajax's request) | 15:07 |
adamw | no, we don't normally slip the test day schedule | 15:07 |
adamw | l10n/i18n is a special case as it relies on something from the main release schedule, a translation test spin, i believe | 15:08 |
adamw | so it wouldn't make sense to go ahead with it this week | 15:08 |
j_dulaney | Indeed; I had understood those were the only two tests being pushed back | 15:08 |
adamw | yep, so far, anyway. | 15:08 |
adamw | #info l10n/i18n test week is being pushed back to next week: 08-30, 08-31, 09-01 | 15:09 |
adamw | #info X week is also being pushed back, to 09-06, 09-07, 09-08 | 15:09 |
adamw | #info other test days remain in place for now | 15:09 |
adamw | i think that'd be all on this topic... | 15:10 |
* adamw notices he missed one topic. oops. | 15:10 | |
adamw | #topic alpha preparation | 15:11 |
adamw | first up, huge thanks to everyone (even those not present) for all the alpha validation testing...i know that was a lot of RCs! | 15:11 |
adamw | it was great work to make sure we didn't have another slip | 15:11 |
tflink | no kidding | 15:12 |
j_dulaney | Indeed | 15:12 |
adamw | so, just wanted a general topic to cover any other work we need to do for alpha, and maybe look forward to beta | 15:12 |
adamw | the most obvious thing is to put together the Common Bugs page: i usually work on that, but help is most welcome | 15:12 |
tflink | yeah, that was the thing I was thinking of | 15:13 |
adamw | you can refer to the bugzilla query http://bit.ly/fedora-commonbugs-proposed to find the list of bugs awaiting commonbugs entries (beware there may be one or two stale f15 proposals on there) | 15:13 |
adamw | the page will be at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F16_bugs; i haven't put the skeleton up yet but will soon | 15:14 |
adamw | there's 'docs' in the page comments about how to format entries on the page | 15:14 |
adamw | #info the common bugs page at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F16_bugs will need entries for the bugs on http://bit.ly/fedora-commonbugs-proposed | 15:15 |
j_dulaney | So,just jump in and add stuff? | 15:15 |
adamw | yup, that'd be great | 15:15 |
j_dulaney | Curse sticking spacebar | 15:15 |
adamw | please ensure all entries have the full allocation of spaces ;) | 15:15 |
j_dulaney | Indeed | 15:16 |
adamw | the other thing that seemed a good idea to me would be to go through the alpha rc validation results and check that bugs are appropriately flagged as blockers for future points | 15:17 |
adamw | so make sure beta fails are proposed as beta blockers, final fails as final blockers | 15:17 |
adamw | anyone want to do that? or think it's a silly idea? | 15:17 |
tflink | in the meeting or just getting it done? | 15:17 |
j_dulaney | Good idea to get done | 15:18 |
adamw | tflink: just seeing if anyone wants to volunteer | 15:19 |
* rbergeron reads | 15:19 | |
tflink | I can do it if there are no other volunteers | 15:19 |
adamw | good volunteerin' there | 15:19 |
adamw | #action tflink to check alpha/beta/final validation results and ensure bugs are correctly marked as blockers | 15:20 |
adamw | we have the first beta blocker review meeting coming up friday, which i'm sure everyone's looking forward to | 15:20 |
tflink | as always | 15:21 |
j_dulaney | Is there an RC/TC out? | 15:21 |
adamw | j_dulaney: no, beta tc doesn't land for a week or two | 15:21 |
* adamw checks schedule | 15:21 | |
adamw | j_dulaney: http://rbergero.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-16/f-16-quality-tasks.html says 09-06 for beta tc | 15:21 |
j_dulaney | Righteo | 15:22 |
* nirik notes (slightly related) that this mornings branched f16 push pushes things to stable (post freeze), so there's likely to be a bunch of changes/updates after today. | 15:22 | |
adamw | there's an acceptance test planned for 08-31...as discussed a few weeks back i'd kinda like to turn the acceptance tests into tcs, but probably best to make that an f17 thing | 15:22 |
j_dulaney | What are the chances of a TC being put together sooner? | 15:22 |
adamw | well, we could certainly try that if everyone likes the idea | 15:23 |
adamw | we'd have to check in with the anaconda team | 15:23 |
adamw | the go/no-go is scheduled for 09-21, which would give us two weeks (and a day) of validation testing with a 09-06 tc | 15:23 |
adamw | er...I mean check in with releng. but yes, anaconda too. | 15:24 |
j_dulaney | I'm just thinking that the sooner we get started, the better. | 15:24 |
nirik | but if you start too soon, things could change a bunch. ;) | 15:24 |
adamw | i certainly agree, but it's not always a great idea to fiddle with the schedule while it's in progress...but then, all it'd really mean is posting some more matrices and calling the rats images tc1 instead | 15:24 |
brunowolff | The 3.1 kernels have not been working well for me, so expect some issues there. | 15:25 |
adamw | rbergeron: do you have an opinion on this one? | 15:25 |
j_dulaney | nirik: True, but the sooner we get on it, the better, yes? | 15:25 |
rbergeron | adamw: /me reads up, was in another meeting | 15:25 |
j_dulaney | Ugh, space bar slowing down typing | 15:25 |
rbergeron | yeah, i'm not a fan of "fiddle with the schedule while in progress" - and honestly, the problems we *usually* have are in alpha, not beta, when we're trying to get the TC/RC put together | 15:26 |
rbergeron | but yes - i mean, we could call earlier images tc's instead. | 15:26 |
rbergeron | I hate to just *do that* without feeling other folks out, though. | 15:26 |
rbergeron | Unless we have a specific problem we're trying to solve. | 15:27 |
rbergeron | Or avoid. | 15:27 |
adamw | rbergeron: i think the specific problem is mostly 'crap, let's not slip again' =) | 15:27 |
rbergeron | yeah. | 15:27 |
j_dulaney | adamw +1 | 15:27 |
rbergeron | We *always* slip at Alpha, we don't always slip at Beta. | 15:27 |
adamw | yeah. | 15:27 |
rbergeron | Also - we can add all hte bugffer time in the universe, but it really comes down to people pushing $whatever in at the last second. | 15:28 |
rbergeron | sooo | 15:28 |
adamw | rbergeron: well, it usually comes down to that because we don't identify the blocker that's getting fixed till 'last second minus two seconds' | 15:28 |
rbergeron | right | 15:28 |
adamw | to be fair | 15:28 |
rbergeron | well | 15:28 |
adamw | i do think extra tc time will help at alpha especially, and it can't really hurt at beta / final | 15:28 |
j_dulaney | Indeed | 15:29 |
rbergeron | my point is - I feel in some ways like the last second stuff always happens at the last second, no matter what, but maybe some buffer might help. | 15:29 |
adamw | it's just a question of any practical issues with it, and whether we really want to do all that testing...j_dulaney seems enthusiastic, though | 15:29 |
adamw | whatever meds you're on, i want some =) | 15:29 |
rbergeron | And it's not like we're blowing a perfect schedule thus far. | 15:29 |
rbergeron | If we try it with Beta, and it doesn't work. :) | 15:29 |
adamw | so, let's see... | 15:29 |
j_dulaney | adamw: You don't want these. | 15:29 |
* adamw is cautiously in favour, j_dulaney is in favour | 15:29 | |
j_dulaney | adamw: My meds keep me out of the nut house; they'd put normal people in the nut house | 15:30 |
adamw | nirik: tflink: brunowolff: anyone else I missed: do you have votes? | 15:30 |
rbergeron | WRT "all that testing" - if we're thinking about doing this permanently, we'd want to make sure we always have someone with whatever meds j_dulaney has. | 15:30 |
adamw | j_dulaney: whatever gave you the impression I was normal? | 15:30 |
rbergeron | Otherwise it doesn't work out so well. | 15:30 |
j_dulaney | adamw: true | 15:30 |
tflink | I'm not against starting with the testing earlier | 15:30 |
adamw | rbergeron: right, although i'd also thought along those lines that if we don't get every single test done for tc1 out of 4 (or whatever it turns out to be), that ain't the end of the world. | 15:31 |
* nirik doesn't care what we call it. ;) | 15:31 | |
rbergeron | I'm kosher with giving it a shot, I don't see a problem with it. | 15:31 |
tflink | as long as we have the people to do it :) | 15:31 |
tflink | TC/RATS ... whatever we want to call it | 15:31 |
rbergeron | Maybe we call it a validation compose. ;) | 15:31 |
rbergeron | lol | 15:31 |
adamw | heh. | 15:31 |
tflink | TTC? | 15:31 |
rbergeron | T2C! | 15:31 |
adamw | EYBC | 15:31 |
rbergeron | Whatever. I say we go for it | 15:31 |
adamw | (eats your babies candidate) | 15:31 |
adamw | okay | 15:31 |
* jskladan is sorry, internet connection died on me :-/ | 15:31 | |
j_dulaney | HH2G | 15:31 |
adamw | so in practice that would just entail putting the rats image out on dl.fp.o and printing some matrices, really. it's not a big change. | 15:32 |
rbergeron | Right. | 15:32 |
j_dulaney | Indeed | 15:32 |
brunowolff | I think being proactive in finding blockers earlier rather than later is good, but i am not sure if early TCs are needed. | 15:32 |
adamw | so...how about someone checks in with anaconda and releng teams and makes sure it's okay by them? and if they say yes, we go ahead | 15:32 |
* j_dulaney had been testing Rawhide with the nightlies in a VM | 15:32 | |
adamw | j_dulaney: the nightlies are f16 not rawhide, i believe | 15:32 |
j_dulaney | adamw: I can do that | 15:32 |
* j_dulaney speaks of prior to branch | 15:33 | |
adamw | ah i see | 15:33 |
adamw | okay | 15:33 |
adamw | #action j_dulaney to check in with anaconda and releng teams on the feasibility of making the rats point (08-31) an early tc | 15:33 |
* rbergeron goes to take people for education, brb. | 15:33 | |
* rbergeron applays adamw's bus-under-throwing, nice work | 15:34 | |
rbergeron | ;) | 15:34 |
rbergeron | applauds | 15:34 |
adamw | if you could update us on the list that'd be great - next meeting might be a bit tight | 15:34 |
adamw | rbergeron: heh | 15:34 |
adamw | or we could discuss it at the open discussion bit of the blocker meeting, everyone's always eager to extend those meetings, right?! | 15:34 |
j_dulaney | adamw: Indeed | 15:34 |
j_dulaney | Nope | 15:35 |
tflink | adamw: no, not really | 15:35 |
* j_dulaney will have trouble enough with making blockers, if they go over they'll be blocking class. This is not cool | 15:35 | |
adamw | heh | 15:35 |
adamw | so, list update it is | 15:36 |
adamw | alright...do we have any other post-alpha / pre-beta stuff to discuss? | 15:36 |
adamw | oh, hey, i have one! | 15:37 |
adamw | looking at the retrospective, one of the points is about the tc images being delayed | 15:37 |
tflink | the F15 retrospective? | 15:37 |
tflink | or the new F16 one? | 15:37 |
adamw | not that old thing, the new new one | 15:37 |
adamw | it might be good for us to have a tc shepherd poking releng with a stick when it comes to image compose time | 15:37 |
j_dulaney | Alpha TC1 for F16 comes to mind | 15:38 |
adamw | right | 15:38 |
* tflink doesn't quite understand what you're proposing | 15:38 | |
j_dulaney | adamw: I could do that this round; can't say I'll do it for the future | 15:38 |
adamw | j_dulaney: i think we'd best not overload your plate :) | 15:38 |
tflink | you mean someone that pesters releng to make sure that their issues are being taken care of? | 15:38 |
tflink | or whatever you want to call what happened with the alpha tc | 15:39 |
adamw | tflink: really, just someone to file the ticket requesting tc1 and then posts to it to ensure the delivery | 15:39 |
nirik | I think alpha creeps up on everyone... | 15:39 |
j_dulaney | adamw: Since I'm going to be poking them anyway, I could include it in the same emails | 15:39 |
adamw | nothing too heavy-handed, maybe just a post a day or two before the scheduled date, and of course post again on the date if the images don't show up | 15:39 |
adamw | nirik: yeah, it tends to | 15:39 |
adamw | it's an idea, if no-one likes it, never mind | 15:39 |
tflink | it would be nice to avoid another week delay in tc | 15:40 |
j_dulaney | Indeed | 15:40 |
* tflink isn't pointing fingers, though | 15:40 | |
adamw | no, none of that | 15:41 |
j_dulaney | Maybe doing it for F17 wouldn't be too bad, though | 15:41 |
adamw | ok | 15:41 |
adamw | doesn't seem anyone's that enthusiastic, so let's leave it | 15:41 |
adamw | soo... | 15:42 |
adamw | #topic AutoQA update | 15:42 |
adamw | do we have anyone from autoqa to take the floor? | 15:42 |
tflink | kparal is gone this week and I've been spending most of my time on other things ... jskladan ? | 15:42 |
j_dulaney | tflink: I've sent you an email with the test suit | 15:42 |
tflink | j_dulaney: awesome | 15:43 |
adamw | we're getting test suits now? | 15:43 |
j_dulaney | It's gzipped | 15:43 |
adamw | why wasn't i told? | 15:43 |
tflink | adamw: because we knew you'd object | 15:43 |
j_dulaney | adamw: the mock infranstructure and testing mechanism | 15:43 |
j_dulaney | For testing AutoQA | 15:44 |
adamw | j_dulaney: just making a joke about the missing e :) | 15:44 |
tflink | j_dulaney: I'll keep an eye out for it, I haven't seen anything yet | 15:44 |
j_dulaney | Doh | 15:44 |
j_dulaney | tflink: for some reason, Github doesn't like me | 15:44 |
j_dulaney | I can't commit even to my own repository | 15:44 |
tflink | :-/ | 15:44 |
j_dulaney | So, I gave up on it | 15:45 |
adamw | jskladan: alive? | 15:45 |
tflink | I think that we were spending more time on testing alpha last week than autoqa development | 15:45 |
tflink | but I'll see how far off I am on this :) | 15:45 |
tflink | mkrizek has been working to get more of our dependencies into fedora (yourls, autoqa) | 15:46 |
j_dulaney | tflink: True; I did almost nothing AutoQA related last week | 15:46 |
adamw | #chair tflink | 15:46 |
zodbot | Current chairs: adamw tflink | 15:46 |
adamw | #info "I think that we were spending more time on testing alpha last week than autoqa development" | 15:46 |
tflink | # info inching towards getting the rest of AutoQA's dependencies packaged in fedora | 15:47 |
j_dulaney | tflink: I included a text file on how to put together tests (how to do the config file, where to put RPMs to test, etc) | 15:47 |
tflink | #info inching towards getting the rest of AutoQA's dependencies packaged in fedora | 15:47 |
tflink | #info j_dulaney has been working on the self test portions of AutoQA | 15:48 |
j_dulaney | So, now we need to start thinking up tests to run on AutoQA | 15:48 |
j_dulaney | I've got a few ideas I'll be putting on the ticket sometime this week | 15:48 |
tflink | We'll be pushing forward with the features planned for 0.7.0 but other than that, will be testing F16 | 15:49 |
adamw | do we have any roadblocks with the packaging stuff? did the sponsor issue work out? | 15:49 |
tflink | mkrizek would know for certain but I believe so, yes | 15:49 |
adamw | great | 15:50 |
tflink | I don't believe that we have any new roadblocks for packaging, autotest just isn't going to be easy :) | 15:50 |
tflink | how's that for a disorganized and long status? | 15:50 |
j_dulaney | Indeed | 15:50 |
adamw | 10/10! | 15:50 |
tflink | sweet | 15:50 |
adamw | keep us all in the loop with any packaging issues, i'm sure we can handle reviews at least among the rest of the group | 15:51 |
tflink | will do | 15:51 |
adamw | #info "We'll be pushing forward with the features planned for 0.7.0 but other than that, will be testing F16" | 15:51 |
adamw | #topic open discussion | 15:51 |
adamw | okay...so, anything i missed? there's gotta b | 15:51 |
adamw | e | 15:51 |
j_dulaney | ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^B^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ | 15:52 |
j_dulaney | ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ | 15:52 |
j_dulaney | A 'B' in the carrot patch | 15:53 |
adamw | man, we're dying out here | 15:54 |
adamw | someone tell a joke | 15:54 |
tflink | two men walked into a bar ... the third one ducked | 15:54 |
adamw | ba-dum *tish* | 15:54 |
adamw | play us off, stan | 15:55 |
adamw | *dances off stage sideways with cane* | 15:55 |
j_dulaney | So, a Microsoft Programmer, an Apple Programmer, and a Linux hacker walk into a library | 15:55 |
adamw | oh boy, should we stop you before the lawyers wake up? =) | 15:55 |
j_dulaney | Probably | 15:55 |
adamw | hehe | 15:56 |
adamw | i guess that's it then... | 15:56 |
adamw | everyone look out for the blocker meeting friday, and a rats run or tc image the following week | 15:56 |
adamw | oh | 15:57 |
adamw | does anyone want to chair the next meeting? next week, same time, same place? | 15:57 |
j_dulaney | Right | 15:57 |
* j_dulaney is available | 15:58 | |
adamw | #action j_dulaney to chair the next meeting | 15:58 |
j_dulaney | As long as I get to class by 1 PM | 15:58 |
adamw | thanks jay! you know the location of the meeting SOP, right? | 15:59 |
j_dulaney | Indeed | 15:59 |
adamw | cool | 16:00 |
adamw | thanks for coming, everyone | 16:00 |
adamw | #endmeeting | 16:00 |
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