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| moixs | So, let's switch to here for the marketing meeting :) | 22:02 |
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| ianweller | themayor: hi | 22:02 |
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| themayor | hey | 22:02 |
| themayor | were in here now? | 22:03 |
| stickster | yup | 22:03 |
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| themayor | okay that works | 22:03 |
| themayor | thanks stickster for setting it up | 22:03 |
| * lcafiero has been here | 22:03 | |
| mizmo | hi | 22:03 |
| moixs | Can someone else log the meeting too? I usually get disconnected at 23h (in 1h) because my room mate goes to bed and cuts the wifi ;) | 22:03 |
| moixs | Just in case :) | 22:04 |
| ianweller | zodbot also keeps logs | 22:04 |
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| MostafaDaneshvar | hey | 22:04 |
| r0xc0rp | Hey, I'm logging this too if it helps | 22:05 |
| moixs | fine ;) | 22:05 |
| themayor | okay are we all here? | 22:06 |
| ianweller | (raise your hand if you're not here) | 22:06 |
| spevack | Max | 22:06 |
| themayor | roll call please | 22:06 |
| moixs | Steven Moix | 22:06 |
| r0xc0rp | Tiago Vieira | 22:06 |
| MostafaDaneshvar | Mostafa Daneshvar | 22:06 |
| themayor | okay so i assume thats that | 22:07 |
| * stickster . | 22:07 | |
| themayor | let me pull up the schedule | 22:08 |
| ianweller | and mizmo is here too | 22:08 |
| mizmo | yo | 22:08 |
| themayor | https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_F11_schedule | 22:08 |
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| themayor | im gonna give a brief go about my stuff and then follow up with people on theirs | 22:09 |
| themayor | the talking points are done | 22:09 |
| themayor | https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F11_Talking_Points | 22:09 |
| themayor | stickster: you looked over these, anyone have any feedback? | 22:10 |
| * moixs is looking at them right now | 22:10 | |
| stickster | themayor: Did you fix the points I discussed with you Friday night? | 22:11 |
| moixs | The separation between different types of users is fine | 22:11 |
| themayor | stickster: yeah some of them i think, is there anything i missed? | 22:11 |
| * ianweller has read them and likes them | 22:12 | |
| themayor | anyone else? | 22:13 |
| spevack | how much has actually changed since the Alpha version of them? | 22:13 |
| themayor | or are people reading | 22:13 |
| * spevack consults the page history | 22:13 | |
| themayor | spevack: bits and pieces, i also added some stuff that i spoke to sticster about | 22:13 |
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| spevack | stickster: do you want to follow up with jack post-meeting about any additional comments, so we can lock this page down for beta? | 22:15 |
| stickster | spevack: Yeah, that sounds fine | 22:15 |
| stickster | I don't want to block the rest of the agenda | 22:15 |
| stickster | There's much to do! | 22:15 |
| stickster | Jack, let's get together later on | 22:15 |
| themayor | okay | 22:15 |
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| themayor | okay ian, any updates on the banners and stuff? | 22:17 |
| themayor | wanna tell everyone whats going on with them | 22:17 |
| ianweller | for the pbook? | 22:17 |
| ianweller | or something else | 22:17 |
| ianweller | i'll assume picture book since that's the only thing i actually own on that page | 22:18 |
| themayor | yeah | 22:18 |
| themayor | the banner | 22:18 |
| ianweller | banner has been imported into fedora-web.git and it's on the fp.o chrome | 22:18 |
| ianweller | it has about a 1/3 probability of showing up | 22:18 |
| stickster | ianweller: I saw that change go into git, awesome | 22:18 |
| ianweller | the other 2/3rds is f10 and f11 alpha. so we'll leave those ;) | 22:18 |
| themayor | havent seen one yet | 22:18 |
| ianweller | s/is/are/ | 22:18 |
| stickster | ianweller: Yeah, *somebody* will want that stuff too, maybe | 22:19 |
| themayor | oooh i just saw | 22:19 |
| ianweller | themayor: :D | 22:19 |
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| ianweller | and picture book submissinos are now open. | 22:19 |
| ianweller | i haven't checked the pictures category yet | 22:19 |
| themayor | the three folders or envelope or whatever | 22:19 |
| ianweller | but mdomsch has asked us to take a look at a couple of photos | 22:19 |
| ianweller | they're on the talk page of that submitting page | 22:19 |
| themayor | awesome | 22:20 |
| themayor | so we are well on our way | 22:20 |
| ianweller | yup | 22:20 |
| themayor | please who ever hasnt blogged about it yet, please do so | 22:20 |
| ianweller | yeah | 22:20 |
| ianweller | flood the planet | 22:20 |
| themayor | i will do one tonight | 22:21 |
| ianweller | i'll also be lurking the upload log | 22:21 |
| ianweller | see if any get in without adding the right categories | 22:21 |
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| themayor | awesome | 22:22 |
| themayor | let jus know | 22:22 |
| ianweller | now we await as many pictures as possible | 22:22 |
| ianweller | brno will bring quite a few in | 22:23 |
| ianweller | also, we changed the submission policy slightly | 22:23 |
| themayor | okay so we have on the schedule update the user testimonials | 22:23 |
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| * ianweller will wait until pbook comes up again ;) | 22:23 | |
| themayor | ianweller: ssorry go ahead, its good that it should be in the log | 22:23 |
| ianweller | oh. ok | 22:23 |
| ianweller | nicu and i were discussing the submission policy | 22:23 |
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| ianweller | ther'es now a route for uploading an image if you don't have a release form, and if we would really like to use the photo, we'll ask the photographer to get one | 22:24 |
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| moixs | (please refresh the schedule page, I made some changes) | 22:24 |
| ianweller | this would be used for photos taken before the release forms existed | 22:24 |
| ianweller | so that the photographer wouldn't have to get a form signed unless we were fairly certain that the photo was going in the book. | 22:24 |
| ianweller | that's all i changed since spevack's changes shortly after the meeting last week | 22:25 |
| themayor | okay great | 22:25 |
| ianweller | we could still use mockups | 22:25 |
| ianweller | :) | 22:25 |
| * ianweller hands the floor back to themayor | 22:25 | |
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| * herlo is here | 22:26 | |
| themayor | okay so one of the tasks is to update the usertestimonials | 22:26 |
| spevack | more specifically | 22:26 |
| spevack | to give the page a fresh outlook | 22:26 |
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| spevack | and either try to make it something current and maintainable | 22:26 |
| spevack | or to retire it completely and Archive: it | 22:27 |
| spevack | this came up last week | 22:27 |
| spevack | but there is no owner | 22:27 |
| moixs | As I said last week...too much work for too little right now. We are already lagging behind in this cycle and I don't see it as time well invested. | 22:27 |
| themayor | yeah | 22:27 |
| moixs | other opinions are welcome, but pick it up then :p | 22:27 |
| themayor | i was wondering if anyone was interested | 22:28 |
| * spevack agrees that it is a lower priority, but wonders why we haven't tried to get someone to pick it up on the mailing list | 22:28 | |
| themayor | but if not we will move on | 22:28 |
| spevack | an email with a vision for what we want the page to be, asking for volunteers | 22:28 |
| moixs | I have a suggestion about this | 22:28 |
| spevack | go ahead | 22:28 |
| moixs | As I quickly told you last week, we are going to work on Fedora's positioning and marketing at school (confirmed today) | 22:29 |
| * spevack remembers | 22:29 | |
| moixs | I can pick up this task there, and discuss what the purpose of this page should be | 22:29 |
| moixs | come up with ideas etc | 22:30 |
| moixs | This can already help to clarify what it should be, before searching an owner | 22:30 |
| themayor | moixs: do you want to do that one the list and see if anyone wants to help you with it | 22:30 |
| moixs | themayor: at the moment, I'd like to keep it silent, for the next 3 weeks or so. | 22:31 |
| themayor | okay so shall we move it down on the schedule | 22:32 |
| moixs | themayor: but I can temporary take ownership of it | 22:32 |
| themayor | okay so i am moving it into the next step | 22:32 |
| themayor | err, nect phase | 22:32 |
| themayor | and putting your name on it | 22:32 |
| moixs | done | 22:32 |
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| themayor | okay great | 22:32 |
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| moixs | themayor: I added a last point to the beta phase | 22:33 |
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| themayor | okay great | 22:33 |
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| themayor | next topic | 22:33 |
| themayor | the in depth feature focus | 22:33 |
| * spevack perks up | 22:34 | |
| spevack | https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F11_in-depth_features | 22:34 |
| themayor | yes | 22:34 |
| spevack | sorry to interrupt, carry on :) | 22:34 |
| themayor | thanks max for putting them up | 22:34 |
| themayor | stickster has already started work on one of them | 22:35 |
| themayor | i should have a decent version of the kernel mode setting stuff tomorrow aftrenoon | 22:35 |
| stickster | https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackageKit_in_Fedora_11 | 22:35 |
| themayor | i was hoping to have it to day but kristian was too busy | 22:35 |
| * stickster put his interview on the wiki and hughsie will finish it when he's got time | 22:35 | |
| themayor | okay so there are a few that are not picked up yet | 22:36 |
| themayor | volume control | 22:36 |
| themayor | and virt improved console | 22:37 |
| themayor | we should really be on top of these | 22:37 |
| stickster | themayor: I think what's needed is email to the list to explain to people what exactly we want them to do to pick up a featue. | 22:37 |
| stickster | *feature | 22:37 |
| spevack | was there any discussion of these on the list between last week and tonight? | 22:37 |
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| themayor | aside from the brief thing on friday based on what i sent out in the weekend thing no | 22:38 |
| themayor | you want me to send out something? | 22:38 |
| * spevack thought we talked about that on thursday | 22:38 | |
| spevack | so... yeah | 22:38 |
| themayor | no we said i was going to work on mine | 22:39 |
| themayor | we didnt say send something to the list | 22:39 |
| themayor | at least not that i recall | 22:39 |
| themayor | sorry if im mistaken | 22:39 |
| spevack | well, let's get some list discussion | 22:39 |
| themayor | okay ill send that out after the meeting then | 22:39 |
| spevack | themayor: i think the idea was to get started on yours, and use that as a template to generate some discussion on the list and hopefully get other people to see "oh, I can do one too!" | 22:39 |
| spevack | kind of like what stickster did | 22:39 |
| themayor | yeah i asked kristian for some time | 22:40 |
| stickster | I'm not saying my page is perfect, but if you think mine works OK, it's up for using as a template. | 22:40 |
| stickster | In fact, if anyone has some ideas for how to improve mine, I would love to do so | 22:40 |
| themayor | its good its a start | 22:40 |
| spevack | ok, so we need an email to the list that shows the main f11 in-depth feature page, stickster's example page showing a work in progress that has just started, and asking for volunteers for the others | 22:40 |
| themayor | sure | 22:41 |
| themayor | and i will post my page tomorrow right after the readiness meeting | 22:41 |
| moixs | Be sure to explain the difference between the talking points and the in-depth pages in the e-mail. It's not obvious right now. | 22:41 |
| spevack | brilliant | 22:41 |
| spevack | moixs: that is true, as evidenced by the thread last week on the list, i think Rahul started it, and stickster and i chimed in | 22:42 |
| themayor | moixs: absolutely, weve spoke about it before but i will do so again | 22:42 |
| moixs | Are we done with the short-term task list? | 22:43 |
| themayor | one last quick thing | 22:43 |
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| * herlo suggests we put these pages into a category so we can all pick and choose from them in one central place | 22:44 | |
| themayor | tomorrow, we are having the beta readiness meeting | 22:44 |
| themayor | herlo: the in depth features? | 22:44 |
| herlo | yes | 22:44 |
| herlo | themayor: it's simple, a category will help those who want to take one but don't know what's there to take. | 22:44 |
| stickster | herlo: That's funny, I was thinking the same thing | 22:44 |
| herlo | like me | 22:44 |
| herlo | :) | 22:45 |
| themayor | stickster: are you game for doing that or do you need some help? | 22:45 |
| stickster | herlo: Maybe I can move that page properly. Let me try. | 22:45 |
| herlo | well, it just needs a [Category:F11 In Depth Feature]] (or similar) tag at the bottom | 22:45 |
| themayor | yeah | 22:45 |
| themayor | and then each page needs one as is created | 22:45 |
| herlo | then everyone can go to /wiki/Category:F11_In_Depth_Feature and see the list | 22:46 |
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| herlo | themayor: yes, and if you make dummy pages with nothing on them, it's easy to find and create content for those who want to help | 22:46 |
| themayor | yup | 22:47 |
| * herlo missed most of last week's meeting, but wants to help. Where's the list of features to work through? | 22:47 | |
| themayor | herlo: whats left is volume control | 22:48 |
| themayor | and virt improved console | 22:48 |
| herlo | oh | 22:48 |
| herlo | is there a list? | 22:48 |
| themayor | yes | 22:48 |
| spevack | https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F11_in-depth_features | 22:48 |
| herlo | I can go through and update the pages iwth the category on them really quick | 22:48 |
| themayor | https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F11_in-depth_features | 22:48 |
| themayor | thanks spevack | 22:48 |
| stickster | herlo: OK,done | 22:48 |
| stickster | https://fedoraproject.org/w/index.php?title=Category:F11_in-depth_features | 22:49 |
| herlo | stickster: sweet! | 22:49 |
| * herlo also wants to point out that it seems like double effort to create a page with that info and have a category page, since category pages can have content too | 22:50 | |
| herlo | I wonder if anyone would be opposed to moving the content from the F11_in-depth_features page to the F11_in-depth_features category page? | 22:50 |
| spevack | whatever works | 22:50 |
| herlo | well, it's already done this time, so I don't want to step on anyone's toes | 22:50 |
| stickster | herlo: Already eon | 22:50 |
| stickster | *done | 22:51 |
| * herlo double looks | 22:51 | |
| herlo | so it is | 22:51 |
| * herlo missed that point before, even though he looked at it | 22:51 | |
| herlo | okay, ignore me, I'll go and make those pages show up on the category page... | 22:51 |
| themayor | okay | 22:52 |
| themayor | so next | 22:52 |
| themayor | the beta readiness meeting is tomorrow | 22:52 |
| themayor | does anyone want me to bring up anything | 22:53 |
| moixs | not really on my side | 22:53 |
| themayor | this is going to be an opportunity to talk with art and docs also about anything we need to coordinate | 22:54 |
| themayor | thats really what i hope to get out of it | 22:54 |
| stickster | themayor: Exactly, it's not just "are we ready," but "are we missing anything that we need from some other team, or are they missing something from us" | 22:54 |
| themayor | yup | 22:54 |
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| stickster | OK, sounds like that's a big silence == "no" | 22:56 |
| themayor | yeah | 22:57 |
| themayor | alright | 22:57 |
| themayor | so other than that, lets talk about the picture book real quick, although we really got everything in | 22:57 |
| ianweller | PICTURE! | 22:57 |
| stickster | BOOK! | 22:57 |
| ianweller | ,,, | 22:58 |
| ianweller | oh ok you got it | 22:58 |
| ianweller | umm i think i talked everything i needed to earlier in the meeting. any questions? | 22:58 |
| themayor | we also have things for next week, we should make sure people have their names by them | 22:59 |
| stickster | What's up for next week? | 22:59 |
| moixs | On the task list you mean? We are pretty much set. | 23:00 |
| * stickster looks at schedule | 23:00 | |
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| moixs | On a quick note, I asked people who subscribed to the news dis. network to update https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_press_publications | 23:00 |
| moixs | i have to kick the germans, hindis and spanish. I'll do it tomorrow | 23:00 |
| moixs | For the other languages, the list is pretty good | 23:01 |
| moixs | eof | 23:01 |
| themayor | brief famsco on stuff | 23:01 |
| themayor | who here goes to the famsco meetings? | 23:01 |
| stickster | I think spevack is usually at them | 23:01 |
| themayor | max can you pick that up then? | 23:02 |
| themayor | i think he left | 23:03 |
| themayor | anyway | 23:04 |
| themayor | we are over time already | 23:04 |
| moixs | ok, let's call it a day then :) | 23:04 |
| themayor | lets call it a day, we have stuff to do for next week | 23:05 |