Ambassadors/Meetings/2008-02-13/HTML Log

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fabian_a	let's have monthly Fedora Ambassadors Meeting for EMEA
fabian_a	Please state your wiki name please (aka roll call).
spevack	MaxSpevack
red_alert	SandroMathys
fcrippa	FrancescoCrippa
* kital (n=Joerg_Si@fedora/kital) has joined #fedora-meeting
fabian_a	FabianAffolter
red_alert	AndreasRau told me he regrets to not be able to be here
* spevack thought this meeting was every week.. it's only once a month?
spevack	is GeroldKa here?
fabian_a	yes, only once a month
kital	JoergSimon <- late
fabian_a	where are all the other ambassadors?
fabian_a	are we going to cancel this meeting because we are only 5 people?
kital	wait a view minutes
spevack	i have a few questions i'd like to ask, while we at least have a few people here.
spevack	hi ChitleshGoorah!
rsc	oh
rsc	RobertScheck
ChitleshGoorah	hai spevack
ChitleshGoorah	ChitleshGoorah
fabian_a	spevack: go a head
rsc	fabian_a: there was no reminder AFAIK
red_alert	if Andreas hadn't told me he's not attending the meeting like 40 minutes ago...I'd have missed it too :/
fabian_a	rsc: there was a reminder on monday
spevack	Well, I wanted to see if everything is ready for FOSDEM -- if there is anything else people need.
* ChitleshGoorah now confirms his presence at FOSDEM :)
rsc	fabian_a: between Monday and today were worlds for me, sorry.
ChitleshGoorah	but stays only up to 12h on sunday
spevack	And second, I wanted to know if there is a separate meeting for the LinuxTag planning, or if we talk about that here.
rsc	spevack: it is likely, that a second real-life meeting for LinuxTag will bring more results - just FYI
rsc	Gerold mentioned such a second meeting vaguely in the past
rsc	(of course, we can talk about everything here as well)
fabian_a	spevack, right now there is only the mailing list. there is no further meeting planned so far
spevack	fabian_a: can I get added to that mailing list (mspevack at redhat.com) for LinuxTag planning?
spevack	I placed an order last week for 1,000 Fedora stickers and 200 Fedora tshirts... almost all of that will be for LinuxTag
fabian_a	spevack, i will take care about that
spevack	we will make more swag than that later, but I wanted to order this stuff early because we had some extra money.
kital	!
fabian_a	kital:
kital	should we make a second RoleCall ? and start the meeting?
fabian_a	sure
kital	do it! eof
fabian_a	please state your wiki name and start with the meeting
fabian_a	once again
kanarip	JeroenVanMeeuwen
fabian_a	FabianAffolter
kital	JoergSimon
fcrippa	FrancescoCrippa
ChitleshGoorah	ChitleshGoorah:
spevack	MaxSpevack
red_alert	SandroMathys
red_alert	as I said before, AndreasRau regrets to not be able to attend
rsc	RobertScheck
MrTom	ThomasCanniot
fabian_a	Just the normal reminder. We'll still follow our meeting protocol to make this meeting quick and efficient. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/IRCHowTo#Protocol
tw2113	MichaelBeckwith
fabian_a	open our meeting page at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2008-02-13 if you like
fabian_a	1. Report current status of FAmSCo
fabian_a	fugolini is not present. skip this...
fabian_a	next topic: Ambassadors Membership
fabian_a	As of 2008-02-11, 305 Ambassadors have been verified (signed CLA and joined 'ambassadors' group)
spevack	!
fabian_a	spevack:
ChitleshGoorah	!
spevack	do we know how many of those 305 are new since last month? And do we know how many of those 305 are in EMEA specifically?
spevack	eof
fabian_a	i guess not but there are ways to register the new ambassadors every month
spevack	i think that it is very important
spevack	to not only have the *total* number of ambassadors
spevack	but also to know the growth each month, and the regions where that growth is happening.
spevack	That is the sort of data that is very useful to Fedora Board and Red Hat in securing budget for Ambassadors.
fabian_a	they can separate by countries -> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Count
kanarip	+1
spevack	the time i spent in europe last year was very useful for this
spevack	and we have more money for Ambassadors in general -- all over the world -- because we saw how strong Europe was, and we also know that South America is very strong.
spevack	and now Greg and I will be focusing much more on those two regions in the coming year than in the past.
spevack	So it will be up to the local groups -- and also FAMSCO -- to continue to provide folks like me with the data that we need to get budget.
spevack	EOF -- sorry to ramble
kanarip	!
fabian_a	i will collect this data. like for the fad 2007 at berlin
fabian_a	ChitleshGoorah,
ChitleshGoorah	talking about CLA, I have noticed some contributors (packagers mostly) are using fake names rather than real names. this is mostly a fedora advisory board issue, but its worth that everyone knows this issue so that we can little by little prevent such things: _eoc_
valen1	is this the channel for EMEA meeting? sorry for being late...
valen1	tehnical issues because I'm not connecting from home
spevack	valen1: this is the right place :)
spevack	ChitleshGoorah: can you send a mail to f-a-b about that? and then they can take care of it (hopefully).
spevack	ChitleshGoorah: maybe give some examples. Or if you want, send me the examples and I will write the mail to f-a-b
ChitleshGoorah	when i'll have time i'll do it
spevack	EOF
fabian_a	thanks ChitleshGoorah
valen1	I'm Croatian Ambassador, and this is my first contact in any official irc ambassadors channel.
spevack	valen1: Welcome! we are all happy to meet you!
valen1	thank you
fabian_a	valen1, please follow the protocol http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/IRCHowTo#Protocol
fabian_a	are we done with Ambassadors Membership?
kanarip	i had an outstanding !
fabian_a	sorry, kanarip
kanarip	i remember i had to update the countrylist manually when i joined the ambassadors, so that isn't representing the numbers exactly. I recall FAS has some information about the country for each FAS member so maybe we can check who is where in the 'ambassadors' group using that. EOF
spevack	!
fabian_a	spevack,
spevack	In the past 2 days I have sent email to mike mcgrath and toshio asking if they can help pull data like this from the FAS. I think that it is probably very easy for them.
* spevack cares a lot about statistics and metrics/
spevack	EOF
kanarip	+1, or "cool"
fabian_a	anything else?
fabian_a	next, please open Fedora Events http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents
kital	!
* KAM (n=karim_ah@41.233.44.29) has joined #fedora-meeting
fabian_a	let's start with Linux Solutions, MrTom perhaps
fabian_a	kital,
kital	Material& Material Tracker?
MrTom	!
kital	The Generic Poster we decided is designed and i will get Prints on Truckplane tomorrow so we can see how they will work
kital	so we have that for now
spevack	!
kital	eof
fabian_a	we have kicked the material tracker because there was only a little feedback about this during the last year
fabian_a	spevack,
spevack	MrTom was first... i yield to him
fabian_a	then MrTom,
MrTom	ok Solutions Linux was a great success. We had the chance to received the 100 live cds the first morning of the event directly on the booth, thanks to Gerold reactivity. All the DVDs were sold or given.
spevack	?
MrTom	we also tried to have contact with Franz Meier, but he was too busy and we missed him.
MrTom	eof
fabian_a	spevack,
spevack	two things
spevack	first
spevack	i want everyone here to understand something about budget
spevack	at Red Hat
spevack	March 1 is the date where we get new budget for the year.
spevack	For europe, we have several ideas for this budget -- a few big shows like LinuxTag and FOSDEM, probably one big FUDCon somewhere in Europe, etc.
spevack	But also we have budget -- about $12,000 per quarter, for the entire world -- for smaller shows.
spevack	So I look at the FedoraEvents page
spevack	and I realize that we didn't help with LinuxSolutions at all for budget.
spevack	but I want to fix problems like that in the future
fcrippa	!
spevack	so i just want you all to know -- we will have much more budget starting March 1, and now that I am not the overall Fedora Leader anymore, I am going to be focusing lots of my time on Ambassadors
spevack	and events worldwide.
spevack	as is Greg DeKoenigsberg
spevack	second thing...
spevack	MrTom did we sign up any new contributors at LinuxSolutions?
spevack	I think it is very important that we try to help new contributors sign the CLA and get their Fedora account at shows.
spevack	EOF
MrTom	!
glezos	hi all, sorry I'm late -- was at work
fabian_a	fcrippa,
fabian_a	then MrTom,
fcrippa	I've seen there's a "RedHat Partner Summit" in EMEA this year, very similar to RH Summit (usa) format
fcrippa	do you think it could be possible to have a "fedora" space into this event?
spevack	fcrippa: I think that Red Hat is planning *something* in Europe similar to the RH Summit in the USA. And if/when that happens, we will try to have a Fedora event at the same time.
valen1	+1 for helping contributos sing CLA
fcrippa	eof
spevack	fcrippa: we are having a FUDCon at the same time as the RH Summit in USA.
spevack	And from now on, we will have a FUDCon at every RH Summit, anywhere in the world.
fcrippa	http://www.europe.redhat.com/mktg/partnersummit/?sc_cid=547
spevack	EOF
MrTom	spevack, unfortunately no, most people come here to know what fedora is, get a cd, and to make criticism (good or bad) of the distro, or to have a chat with us. eof
spevack	MrTom: ok.
glezos	spevack: that's great news
fabian_a	next event: Lolug Pillole at Lodi (formally "Fedora by Night")
spevack	fcrippa: This is the first I have heard of the partner summit in your link... so i don't know if Fedora will be there. But *after* that, we will definitely have Fedora at all major RH events in Europe (that is my plan)
spevack	EOF
fcrippa	spevack: +1
fabian_a	fcrippa, something about Lolug Pillole at Lodi
fcrippa	ok
fcrippa	Everything should be ready
fcrippa	I've received dvds from spevack some weeks ago
fabian_a	thanks fcrippa
fcrippa	t-shirts and caps (20 items) from spriedshirt last week (with local "own" budget)
fcrippa	and tomorrow I hope to have mairin posters printed
spevack	!
fcrippa	We've got al least 3 big online italian newspaper that report news about "fedora by night"
fcrippa	eof
fabian_a	spevack,
spevack	After March 1 when we have our new budget
spevack	I will be happy to pay the costs of several sets of Mairin's posters to be made for the European ambassadors
spevack	so if fcrippa or kital are making them, i can pay you back in a few weeks.
spevack	one question.
spevack	are we translating the posters?
spevack	or just english?
spevack	EOF
fcrippa	!
rsc	!
* kital not - because i use it in Brussels Germany and Poland
rsc	+1
fabian_a	fcrippa
fcrippa	just english
fcrippa	in Italian they sound a bit strange...
fcrippa	best results with english version
fcrippa	eof
red_alert	+1
glezos	spevack: FWIW, I'll translate it for a local event.
fabian_a	rsc,
rsc	fabian_a: just the same as kital (and +1 as mentioned) EOF
fabian_a	ok
valen1	?
fabian_a	valen1,
valen1	I have a question about budgeting. Does the budget cover some events that promote fedora but aren't shows?
valen1	I have a project in mind that would get quite large media coverage in Croatian mainstream media and I would like to present it like Red Hat/Fedora sponsored event.
spevack	!
valen1	It would be localisation marathon - we would get 10-15 contributors to work on translation of Fedora, Gnome and other projects to Croatia. That would be a great way of promoting Fedora as a distribution for education, local groverment, etc...
valen1	I believe that this would be a really not expensive event. And we would also like to distribute fedora promo materials on this event that would be 2 days long. We could do this every month... and we believe that after 2-3 events we would get local companies to cover the budget.
valen1	How does this sound to you?
valen1	eof
spevack	valen1: I think it sounds very, very interesting. and I would think that glezos, who is our translation and localization king, could probably help you out. I am happy to support an activity like that.
spevack	I really need to do a longer presentation to all of you about our budget.
spevack	But to explain it in 30 seconds:
spevack	there is money set aside specifically for shows and events
spevack	but there is also money set aside for localization, and for other opportunities that we can't forsee but that come up.
spevack	valen1: for anything specific to the actual *work* around localization, i suggest you talk to glezos. For any money needs, I am the guy to talk to.
spevack	EOF
glezos	!
fabian_a	glezos,
glezos	valen1: *any* help I can give, just yell. In fact, I'll come private now or a bit later to make sure you have everything you need.
glezos	eof
fabian_a	ok, next event
fabian_a	FOSDEM 2008
fabian_a	any news?
glezos	wiki page: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/FOSDEM/FOSDEM2008
glezos	!
fabian_a	glezos,
kital	!
glezos	fabian_a: seems we'll be a big bunch of people, yay!
fabian_a	we will :-)
glezos	I have scheduled a meeting with the mediawiki guys to talk about localization, since we're thinking about having it as our wiki solution
glezos	And also I'd really like us to sit down and discuss localization, our tools, community around translations and *everything* around this issue.
glezos	So I'll make sure to go around and find a slot of 1-2 hours to properly cover everything, so that I'll make sure you have what you need for getting the word out to any local group/language
glezos	eof
kanarip	hold on guys i gotta jump irc servers the one i'm connected to is going down for maintainance
* ChitleshGoorah now confirms his presence at FOSDEM :) but will return early
fabian_a	kital,
* kital will bring "older" OLPC from Max, will bring the Posters - and the Fedora Ambassador Polos which are ordered and will arrive in time
kital	eof
* spevack is trying to get some new OLPC in time for LinuxTag
* ChitleshGoorah will bring a KDE4 on a laptop + FEL applications :)
* glezos will bring a Tux poster 3m high :P
fabian_a	anything else about FOSDEM?
red_alert	!
fabian_a	red_alert,
MrTom	!
red_alert	I just got message from the linuxtag organizers...they'll attend FOSDEM (and some other european events in the next some weeks) too...maybe a good chance to clear some things in person where necessary
red_alert	eof
fabian_a	MrTom,
MrTom	french people should normaly bring 100 Fedora badges, this is an exprimental order from us.
MrTom	we don't know if we'll got them on time
MrTom	eof
fabian_a	thanks, MrTom and red_alert
fabian_a	next event: Chemnitzer LinuxTage 2008
kital	!
fabian_a	kital,
kital	Booth is allocated http://chemnitzer.linux-tage.de/2008/live/detail.html?idx=133
kanarip	!
kital	special Poster generated http://jsimon.fedorapeople.org/clt2.pdf
* kital and rsc, JensKuehnel DanielKretzschmer are Ambassadors off duty
kital	eof
* ChitleshGoorah motivates ambassadors to go to chemnitz, their social party is great :)
fabian_a	thanks, kital
fabian_a	next will be OpenExpo 2008 Berne
spevack	!
fabian_a	spevack,
spevack	if either fabian_a or kital need some budget to help make your events more successful, I can give you that after March 1. Let me know.
spevack	eof
fabian_a	thanks, spevack. so far we have Live CDs from GeroldKa and some posters from last year. maybe a text-banner too
* kital has noticed
fabian_a	i want to discuss the rest during fosdem because kital is there, too
fabian_a	next: LinuxTag
fabian_a	there was a offline meeting at the begin of february
fabian_a	check out http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/LinuxTag/LinuxTag2008/FLTT if you want to help
fabian_a	anything else about Fedora Events?
glezos	(Thumbs-up for organizing stuff in the open, on the wiki!)
spevack	!
fabian_a	spevack,
spevack	I have one quick question
spevack	i notice that there are lots of EMEA events in Feb, Mar, Apr, May.
spevack	After linux tag
spevack	the EventsList for Europe drops off a lot
spevack	are there no other events, or are they just not on the list yet?
spevack	eof
rsc	!
fabian_a	rsc,
rsc	AFAIK there are nearly less to no bigger events. Correct me, if I'm wrong.
rsc	EOF
kital	!
fabian_a	kital,
kital	Froscon, Frühjahrsfachgespräch are the only - i know
kital	eof
fabian_a	froscon is already on the list
fcrippa	!
fabian_a	fcrippa,
fcrippa	In Italy will be "Linux Day"
spevack	well, then the less busy time will be a good time to try to organize a Europe FUDCon ;)
fcrippa	more then 100 small event in the same moment
fcrippa	one for each italian cities
fcrippa	last year ubuntu dominated dvd distribution...
fcrippa	so I hope this year also fedora can participate to dvd war..
glezos	spevack: definitely! Distances are small here, so we could get a lot of people together more easily.
fcrippa	eof
fcrippa	(linux day should be last week of october)
valen1	?
fcrippa	spevack: +1
fabian_a	valen1,
valen1	Will there be a full text copy of this meeting - if it will - where and when?
valen1	glezos please contact me offline because I have to go now. My email is valent.turkovic@gmail.com because I have lots of localization questions.
valen1	Thank you all and bye.
valen1	eof
glezos	valen1: will do!
fabian_a	more issues about events?
kanarip	there's an event called "HCC dagen" with about 120.000 visitors in Oct/Nov in the Netherlands
red_alert	!
spevack	kanarip: add it! :)
fabian_a	please add all events to http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents
fabian_a	red_alert,
red_alert	I know that FrOSCon is taking place no earlier than august...but just to check, is there someone feeling responsible for that event? they should add themselves to the FedoraEvents page
red_alert	eof
fabian_a	next topic: NPO
fabian_a	kanarip please
kanarip	ok
kanarip	i've sent the latest draft of the NPO statutes to the mailing list, incorporating some of the comments made on the first draft
kanarip	Gerold indicates that the financial department in Germany still needs to "OK" the first draft and that is just to indicate there are no fundamental problems -nothing official about their answer-
kanarip	We've set up a page where you can self-nominate if you would want to run for board and the law requires a minimum of 4 people on the board, and so far 4 people have nominated themselves
rsc	!
kanarip	note that amongst those 4 is MaxSpevack, who regretably will not be able to attend FOSDEM and can therefore not be elected :/
spevack	:(
kanarip	again, that's a requirement by law and not something we made up on the spot < sorry max :/
spevack	kanarip: but i will someday stage a coup! ;)
kanarip	you will i'm sure i'll be watching you ;-)
spevack	kanarip: it's ok. I even noted that on the page
* spot ponders a coup
kanarip	so far, so good, gerold and i have been thinking about postponing the foundation if there is 1) not enough candidates for board, or 2) if the ambassadors think max should be there when it all goes down
rsc	There was a parol "OK" by a German financial department for the first draft (?), but nothing in written form, yet -- EOF (fabian_a, you're to slow)
kanarip	3) whatever other reason you can think of... fill us in
kanarip	any questions?
fabian_a	now it's up to rsc :-)
kanarip	there is an opportunity on the table to motion... i'll ask again, any questions?
red_alert	?
fabian_a	red_alert,
glezos	kanarip: FWIW, I'm planning on nominate for the board as well
spevack	spot: i called dibs on the coup, but you can be my minion if you like ;)
kanarip	no-one wants to suggest postponing and make a motion to do so?
kanarip	red_alert, there's your answer i guess ;-)
red_alert	we could still have a general member meeting at linuxtag in berlin in order to give more members to be voted into the board that can't go to FOSDEM, right? of course we still need 4 nominees at FOSDEM
spot	spevack: yes, but i will be at fosdem. muahaa!
* spevack shakes his fist
red_alert	oh...eof
kanarip	red_alert, maybe we could i'll have to clear that up with Gerold
kanarip	fabian_a, i guess there's no more questions or comments so we can continue ;-)
kanarip	EOF
rsc	kanarip: +1 / red_alert: -1
fabian_a	thanks, kanarip
fabian_a	the stage is open
kanarip	rsc, +1 to what exactly?
ChitleshGoorah	Here is presentation I did for Fedora Electronic Lab, http://chitlesh.fedorapeople.org/FEL/fel-fabless-solutions.pdf , please pass it on to those you may know who might interested. I talked about where FEL applications can be used and how academic institutions might take advantage of it.
ChitleshGoorah	eof
fabian_a	anything else?
kanarip	apparently not
fabian_a	ok
rsc	kanarip: communication with Gerold about this/doing it still on FOSDEM
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fabian_a	4
fabian_a	3
fabian_a	2
fabian_a	1
fabian_a	Fedora Ambassadors Meeting EMEA 2008-02-13 has been adjourned. Next meeting in March 2008.

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