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<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">fabian_a</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">1. 2nd Quarter Budget (see Jeffrey mail and sheet)</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">fabian_a</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">2. Release events status (+ RE contest)</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">fabian_a</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">3. Ambassadors Project status</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">fabian_a</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">4. Rules and more (just a reminder for everyone at FAmSCo)</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">fabian_a</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">5. Wiki migration</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">fabian_a</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">6. t.b.d.</td></tr>

<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e">iWolf</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #42427e">I can cover budget, if people want.</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">fabian_a</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">do we want to start now?</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #818144">jmbuser</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #818144">+1</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e">iWolf</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #42427e">+1</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">MrTom</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">let's go</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">fabian_a</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">ok...where is Rodrigo?</td></tr>

<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">fabian_a</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">iWolf: please start with budget</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e">iWolf</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #42427e">Okay....</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e">iWolf</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #42427e">Max updated the spreadsheet i created earlier in the week, we come in just under the $12,000 USD.</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e">iWolf</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #42427e">Everyone should have the spreadsheet in the email Max sent.</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #488888">RodrigoPadula</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #488888">i'm here!</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e">iWolf</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #42427e">Everything on it looks good to me, I think we (famsco) just need to approve it, or make comments/suggest changes.</td></tr>

<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e">iWolf</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #42427e">Since we are missing the chair, we might want to do a mailing list vote?</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e">iWolf</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #42427e">Questions?  Comments?</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e">iWolf</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #42427e">eof</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #488888">RodrigoPadula</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #488888">!</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #488888">RodrigoPadula</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #488888">yesterday i talk with the LATAM group</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #488888">RodrigoPadula</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #488888">probably we will have new events do add in this spreadsheet</td></tr>

<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #488888">RodrigoPadula</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #488888">but... probably...</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #488888">RodrigoPadula</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #488888">so, we can vote now</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e">iWolf</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #42427e">Has everyone had a chance to look at the new spreadsheet?</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #488888">RodrigoPadula</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #488888">eof</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">MrTom</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">yes for me</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">MrTom</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">i find it good, however i don't know where Max will find the money for the livecd i asked for</td></tr>

<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #8c4a4a">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #8c4a4a">i'm really sorry but the train had a 2h of delay</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #8c4a4a">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #8c4a4a">i'm just arrived at home</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">MrTom</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">no pb fugolini</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">MrTom</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">we started 10 min ago</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e">iWolf</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #42427e">fugolini: no worries, fabian_a was just getting us started - covering budget now</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #8c4a4a">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #8c4a4a">ok, let me go to refresh my face</td></tr>

<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e">iWolf</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #42427e">MrTom: were they going to get you some media from the LinuxTag leftovers?</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">MrTom</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">I don't think so</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e">iWolf</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #42427e">hhmm, is this for your release party?</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">MrTom</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">but i'm not sure as well that max gave the final approval about it</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">MrTom</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">for the release party and for Mont de Marsant in fact</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #8c4a4a">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #8c4a4a">fabian_a: you can continue leading the meeting</td></tr>

<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e">iWolf</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #42427e">MrTom: ah, we have $1000USD set aside for the Mont De Marsant in the spreadsheet.</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e">iWolf</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #42427e">Will that help?</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">MrTom</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">yes, but half of it would get lost in the live cd</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">fabian_a</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">fugolini: we just go through the agenda point by point...there is not much to lead</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">MrTom</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">i hope, i'll wait for Max thoughts about it</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">MrTom</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">because he talked about extras $500 for them, then I don't really know</td></tr>

<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e">iWolf</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #42427e">MrTom: sounds good, there is a little bit extra in the budget, maybe spread it across what we have allocated for you now, coupled with leftovers from LinuTag, etc.</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">MrTom</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">yes</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #8c4a4a">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #8c4a4a">iWolf:  +1</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e">iWolf</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #42427e">So, are people comfortable voting on teh most recent budget Max posted this morning?</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e">iWolf</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #42427e">I don't want to rush it, but I also want to clear it off the plate if people are in agreement.</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #818144">jmbuser</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #818144">Looks good to me</td></tr>

<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">MrTom</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">as well for me</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">fabian_a</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">for me too</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #488888">RodrigoPadula</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #488888">+1</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e">iWolf</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #42427e">+1 from me</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #8c4a4a">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #8c4a4a">+1 too</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e">iWolf</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #42427e">Great!  So Q2 budget is approved.</td></tr>

<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e">iWolf</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #42427e">That should be it on the budget agenda for this week then.</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e">iWolf</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #42427e">fabian_a: back to you.</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">fabian_a</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">ok, point 2: release events status and contest</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e">iWolf</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #42427e">I guess that's me again....   :)</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e">iWolf</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #42427e">We've been seeing lots of event reports, sounds like there have been some good events going on and lots of coverage.</td></tr>

<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e">iWolf</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #42427e">the contest ends next Tuesday.</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e">iWolf</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #42427e">After that, I will compile a list of report links and mail the famsco list</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e">iWolf</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #42427e">for discussion on who we award the laptop bag to.</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e">iWolf</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #42427e">eof</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #8c4a4a">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #8c4a4a">ok</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #8c4a4a">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #8c4a4a">!</td></tr>

<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #488888">RodrigoPadula</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #488888">i'm organizing the Brazilian Release Party to the next week, where im thinking to create the Rio de Janeiro Fedora LUG</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #8c4a4a">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #8c4a4a">may i?</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #488888">RodrigoPadula</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #488888">i will use this party to recruit new colaborators and members to the local user group</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #488888">RodrigoPadula</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #488888">eof</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #8c4a4a">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #8c4a4a">Just a thing ...</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #8c4a4a">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #8c4a4a">All the release events just done had great reports and, as i could see, they were sucessfully</td></tr>

<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #8c4a4a">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #8c4a4a">there are others so far, and i'm sure they will be sucessfull</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #8c4a4a">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #8c4a4a">what i want to say, is that we need to store all the knoledge from this first expereince</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #8c4a4a">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #8c4a4a">to improve the next Release Events, maybe sharing with marketing project</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #8c4a4a">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #8c4a4a">our ideas etc. to have a more deep media cover</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #8c4a4a">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #8c4a4a">i think they could be another way to have a contact with people and it could became a milestone for the future</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #8c4a4a">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #8c4a4a">eof</td></tr>

<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #818144">jmbuser</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #818144">!</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #8c4a4a">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #8c4a4a">i think you can talk</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #818144">jmbuser</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #818144">My impression is that the press coverage was pretty good for this release with many positive articles</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">fabian_a</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">jmbuser: sorry</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #818144">jmbuser</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #818144">I also noticed that local events were also covered by their local newspapers</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #818144">jmbuser</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #818144">This is great publicity</td></tr>

<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #818144">jmbuser</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #818144">eof</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #8c4a4a">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #8c4a4a"><a href="http://punto-informatico.it/p.aspx?id=2295086">http://punto-informatico.it/p.aspx?id=2295086</a> --> this is an example :)</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #8c4a4a">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #8c4a4a">i'm saying this because i see how far marketing project is going</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #8c4a4a">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #8c4a4a">i think it could be a helpfull hand, yes, i think people worked and are working great, without doubtr</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #8c4a4a">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #8c4a4a">eof</td></tr>

<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">fabian_a</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">are we done with release events status?</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e">iWolf</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #42427e">fabian_a: i am.</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #8c4a4a">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #8c4a4a">yes</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #488888">RodrigoPadula</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #488888">yes</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">fabian_a</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">ok, next point.  Ambassadors Project status</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #8c4a4a">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #8c4a4a">!</td></tr>

<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">fabian_a</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">fugolini,</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #8c4a4a">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #8c4a4a">thank you</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #8c4a4a">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #8c4a4a">We are near the end of the first warter and i want to ask FAmSCo</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #8c4a4a">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #8c4a4a">to express what they think it's necessary to improve in the community</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #8c4a4a">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #8c4a4a">max suggested to work on Apac</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #8c4a4a">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #8c4a4a">and i think he was right, but i hope you'll give me more infos</td></tr>

<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #488888">RodrigoPadula</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #488888">Apac ??</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #8c4a4a">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #8c4a4a">what you think we and i miss</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #8c4a4a">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #8c4a4a">and what we could improve</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #8c4a4a">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #8c4a4a">RodrigoPadula: why?</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #488888">RodrigoPadula</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #488888">what is Apac ?</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #818144">jmbuser</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #818144">APAC = Asia Pacific</td></tr>

<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #488888">RodrigoPadula</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #488888">ohh sorry</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #8c4a4a">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #8c4a4a">sorry, i didn't understand</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #8c4a4a">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #8c4a4a">just all</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #8c4a4a">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #8c4a4a">i hope this discussion could start here and could continue in the list</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #8c4a4a">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #8c4a4a">eof</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #488888">RodrigoPadula</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #488888">!</td></tr>

<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">fabian_a</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">RodrigoPadula, </td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #488888">RodrigoPadula</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #488888">i think not only APAC.. but CARIBEAN, and many other regions where the number of ambassors is litle</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #488888">RodrigoPadula</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #488888">for me, we need to see in the ambassadors list where we need to improve the project</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #488888">RodrigoPadula</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #488888">for me .. the first step is recruit ambassadors in this  areas</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #488888">RodrigoPadula</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #488888">im doing it in Brazil and others countries in latin america</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #488888">RodrigoPadula</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #488888">eof</td></tr>

<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #8c4a4a">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #8c4a4a">!</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #8c4a4a">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #8c4a4a">i just wrote an email asking people feedbacks, if you desire an explicit mail i could write it. just tell me</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">fabian_a</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">i think that we need to work in every region because a lot of idle or inactive ambassadors in the country list doesn't reflect a big community</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e">iWolf</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #42427e">fabian_a: +1</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #488888">RodrigoPadula</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #488888">it's other problem!</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #488888">RodrigoPadula</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #488888">one problem is: we dont have ambassadors</td></tr>

<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">fabian_a</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">IMHO, every member of famsco should work in his area and give a hand to apac</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #8c4a4a">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #8c4a4a">i think, meanwhile, we have to give a reason to people to work (and to recruit new ones)</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #488888">RodrigoPadula</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #488888">other problem is : we have but they dont work!</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #488888">RodrigoPadula</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #488888">in my opnion.. some ambassador need to be fired hehehe</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #8c4a4a">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #8c4a4a">no, nobody was hired</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #8c4a4a">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #8c4a4a">so nobody could be fired</td></tr>

<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e">iWolf</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #42427e">fugolini: +1</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #818144">jmbuser</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #818144">+1</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">fabian_a</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">we have to give them a reason to work...as an ambassadors you are not an employee ;-)</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #8c4a4a">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #8c4a4a">i think we could invite people with any kind of activities</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #8c4a4a">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #8c4a4a">e.g. Release Party are a simple way to tell people: you can enjoy yourself spreading the Fedora voice</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #488888">RodrigoPadula</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #488888">many people join us to see names on the list</td></tr>

<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #488888">RodrigoPadula</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #488888">as ambassadors</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #488888">RodrigoPadula</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #488888">i have another vision of the Ambassadors Project</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #8c4a4a">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #8c4a4a">RodrigoPadula: probably you are right, but i think we have to see the other side of the glass (not the empty one)</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #488888">RodrigoPadula</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #488888">if we have great ambassador... it's sounds good to the project</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #488888">RodrigoPadula</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #488888">but names in the list.. not sounds goog</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #488888">RodrigoPadula</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #488888">good</td></tr>

<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #8c4a4a">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #8c4a4a">but we have great ambassadors, and i can tell you the names, (you see them in the list, in the planet, in the real life meeting etc)</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #488888">RodrigoPadula</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #488888">yes</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #8c4a4a">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #8c4a4a">RodrigoPadula: this is a cons of a community made by volunteers</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #488888">RodrigoPadula</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #488888">i thinks it's 10% of all ambassadors</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #488888">RodrigoPadula</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #488888">for you what is a volunteer ?</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #8c4a4a">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #8c4a4a">not in the military sense</td></tr>

<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #488888">RodrigoPadula</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #488888">we have some ghosts on the ambassadors list</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #4b904b">Southern_Gentlem</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #4b904b">!</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #8c4a4a">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #8c4a4a">but if you close the door, people whould be scared</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #8c4a4a">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #8c4a4a">Southern_Gentlem:</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #8c4a4a">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #8c4a4a">osp sorry fabian_a</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #8c4a4a">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #8c4a4a">i forget</td></tr>

<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #4b904b">Southern_Gentlem</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #4b904b">RodrigoPadula,  people volunteer to give their time, sometimes people need to be guided to the next tasks, or they get bored</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #488888">RodrigoPadula</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #488888">no... i'm not talking to close the door</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #4b904b">Southern_Gentlem</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #4b904b">and there has been talk of clearing out the ambassadors list before and it ticked alot of the good ambassador off eof</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">fabian_a</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">we have some ghosts but we are maybe able to bring this ghosts back to live</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">fabian_a</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">Southern_Gentlem: +1</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #488888">RodrigoPadula</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #488888">here in brazil we have many volunteers, when this volunteer is working frequently i invite this to the project</td></tr>

<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #4b904b">Southern_Gentlem</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #4b904b">!</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">fabian_a</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">if the e-mail addresses still are valid ;-)</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">fabian_a</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">Southern_Gentlem,</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #8c4a4a">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #8c4a4a">fabian_a: +1 :)</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #488888">RodrigoPadula</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #488888">the problem is... the local project not is the first contact in your contries</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #4b904b">Southern_Gentlem</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #4b904b">RodrigoPadula,  please use meeting protocol</td></tr>

<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #488888">RodrigoPadula</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #488888">sorry!</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #488888">RodrigoPadula</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #488888">eof</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #4b904b">Southern_Gentlem</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #4b904b">i am Fedora ambassador for this area did i have a release party for f9 no because my college is on Summer break, this fall i will be involved with my local lug to have a release party for f10 eof</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #488888">RodrigoPadula</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #488888">!</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">fabian_a</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">RodrigoPadula,</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #488888">RodrigoPadula</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #488888">in brazil... we are the interface between the Fedora Project and the community</td></tr>

<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #488888">RodrigoPadula</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #488888">so, we recruit collaborators</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #488888">RodrigoPadula</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #488888">and guide this ambassadors to contribute with the projects</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #488888">RodrigoPadula</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #488888">when a collaborator work constantly</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #488888">RodrigoPadula</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #488888">i invite this to the ambassadors project</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #488888">RodrigoPadula</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #488888">so, in the ambassadors list we have only active ambassors</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #488888">RodrigoPadula</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #488888">90%</td></tr>

<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #488888">RodrigoPadula</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #488888">the local project need to copy this model!</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #4b904b">Southern_Gentlem</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #4b904b">!</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #488888">RodrigoPadula</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #488888">to drive and guide the local community</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #488888">RodrigoPadula</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #488888">to work and represent the fedora locally</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #488888">RodrigoPadula</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #488888">eof</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #8c4a4a">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #8c4a4a">the problem is that, here, we haven't sign any contract or any kind of obligation with fedora project, because fedora project is not an association nor a company. It's a group of people that give freely without any duty their time</td></tr>

<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">fabian_a</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">Southern_Gentlem,</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #488888">RodrigoPadula</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #488888">i agree.. but the local projects need to guide your local members!</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #4b904b">Southern_Gentlem</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #4b904b">RodrigoPadula,  i understand what you are staying, but are you saying because i am not living and breathing Fedora every minute of every day i am not an active ambassadar?</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #4b904b">Southern_Gentlem</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #4b904b">i for one have a lot of college students who are getting interested in helping with fedora,, but the majority do not have the spare time</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #4b904b">Southern_Gentlem</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #4b904b">eof</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #8c4a4a">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #8c4a4a">Southern_Gentlem: yep :)</td></tr>

<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #8c4a4a">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #8c4a4a">RodrigoPadula: have you a proposal to make now or in the next day (trought the list)</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #8c4a4a">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #8c4a4a">?</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #488888">RodrigoPadula</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #488888">yes</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #8c4a4a">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #8c4a4a">now?</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #488888">RodrigoPadula</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #488888">on the list</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #488888">RodrigoPadula</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #488888">later</td></tr>

<tr><td class="action" colspan="3">* iWolf is running out of time</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #8c4a4a">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #8c4a4a">perfect, i think it could improve the discussion</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #8c4a4a">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #8c4a4a">iWolf: i agree with you (i have to eat, cleat etc.) :)</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #4b904b">Southern_Gentlem</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #4b904b">laters</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">fabian_a</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">i suggest to skip the last points</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #818144">jmbuser</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #818144">+1</td></tr>

<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e">iWolf</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #42427e">+1</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #488888">RodrigoPadula</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #488888">+1</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">MrTom</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">yes</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #8c4a4a">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #8c4a4a">ok</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">fabian_a</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">anything else for today?</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e">iWolf</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #42427e">not from me.</td></tr>

<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #488888">RodrigoPadula</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #488888">not</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">fabian_a</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">meeting has been adjourned...</td></tr>
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