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| themayor | This is the Fedora Marketing Meeting | 22:01 |
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| herlo | .fas herlo | 22:01 |
| zodbot | herlo: herlo 'Clint Savage' <herlo1@gmail.com> | 22:01 |
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| themayor | anyone else joining us? | 22:02 |
| * GeroldKa wants if allowed | 22:02 | |
| themayor | hmmm, yanstadel and e1luca are supposed to be here | 22:02 |
| spevack | i'm here | 22:03 |
| themayor | hey mac | 22:03 |
| GeroldKa | yes, but only because you hung up the phone :-) Max | 22:03 |
| spevack | heh | 22:03 |
| GeroldKa | Oh, MacMax | 22:03 |
| themayor | Mad Max | 22:03 |
| GeroldKa | wasn't it MAD Max | 22:04 |
| GeroldKa | *bg* | 22:04 |
| spevack | Going Mad | 22:04 |
| GeroldKa | it's a kind of metamorphose :-P | 22:04 |
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| spevack | themayor: let's roll | 22:06 |
| spevack | i guess | 22:06 |
| spevack | ianweller: ping | 22:06 |
| themayor | yup | 22:06 |
| themayor | okay | 22:06 |
| themayor | so next week is the rc meeting | 22:06 |
| moixs | (please reload Marketing_F11_schedule, I just updated some points) | 22:06 |
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| moixs | And what are you going to discuss themayor, who is attending? | 22:08 |
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| themayor | one second ill paste the list | 22:08 |
| spevack | themayor: weren't you planning on some additional meetings w/ art team and docs to coordinate? | 22:08 |
| themayor | Ambassadors -- David Nalley | 22:08 |
| themayor | Artwork/Design -- Máirín Duffy | 22:08 |
| themayor | Documentation -- Eric Christensen | 22:08 |
| themayor | FESCo -- Jon Stanley | 22:08 |
| themayor | Fedora Engineering Manager -- Tom "Spot" Callaway | 22:08 |
| themayor | Fedora Project Leader -- Paul Frields | 22:08 |
| themayor | Infrastructure -- Mike McGrath | 22:08 |
| themayor | Marketing -- Jack Aboutboul | 22:09 |
| themayor | Quality -- James Laska | 22:09 |
| spevack | it would be a good idea to do that before the RC meeting | 22:09 |
| themayor | Release Engineering -- Jesse Keating | 22:09 |
| themayor | Translation -- Diego Búrigo Zacarão | 22:09 |
| themayor | Websites -- Ricky Zhou | 22:09 |
| themayor | Facilitator -- John Poelstra | 22:09 |
| themayor | yes i already spoke to diego a couple of times | 22:10 |
| themayor | its been hard getting mo to find free time | 22:10 |
| themayor | but i will talk to her by then | 22:10 |
| themayor | the truth, i might go to westford | 22:10 |
| themayor | because we also need pics for the picture book | 22:10 |
| * moixs still needs to upload one | 22:11 | |
| themayor | yes please do | 22:11 |
| themayor | anyway | 22:11 |
| themayor | lets move quick | 22:11 |
| themayor | so the meeting is next week | 22:11 |
| themayor | basically what happens at the meeting is we try and see if anyone has any big blockers | 22:12 |
| themayor | and if any team is waiting on another team | 22:12 |
| themayor | we arent waiting on anyone for release stuff | 22:12 |
| themayor | and i dont think anyone is waiting on us | 22:12 |
| moixs | okay, seems reasonable :) | 22:12 |
| themayor | the big thing i really wanted to talk about was the release announcement | 22:13 |
| themayor | and the press kits | 22:13 |
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| themayor | i would like to have them finalized in the next couple of weeks and passed on to translation | 22:13 |
| themayor | and have art look them over | 22:13 |
| moixs | For the final release you mean? | 22:13 |
| themayor | yes | 22:13 |
| themayor | this is all for final | 22:14 |
| themayor | anyway, would like to see US work on the release announcement and related stuff this time | 22:14 |
| themayor | i think that is our responsibility and we shouldnt have to chuck it on other groups | 22:14 |
| moixs | okay, I already made a release announcement, but in FR as usual. I meade 2 of them in fact...technical and non technical. | 22:14 |
| themayor | also thats the fun stuff to do | 22:14 |
| themayor | well the release announcement isnt supposed to be technical too much | 22:15 |
| themayor | just like all the other ones | 22:15 |
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| moixs | yes, it's moderatly technical :p | 22:15 |
| moixs | yes | 22:15 |
| themayor | yeah moderately | 22:15 |
| themayor | spevack: doesnt jesse do them now? | 22:15 |
| spevack | no | 22:16 |
| spevack | docs writes them | 22:16 |
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| spevack | jesse just adds a little blurb on the top | 22:16 |
| moixs | yep, they did for beta | 22:16 |
| spevack | that is how it was for F11 beta, f13 can confirm | 22:16 |
| themayor | yeah okay good, thats what i thought | 22:16 |
| spevack | f13 gets to do the fun part :) | 22:16 |
| themayor | lucky bashterd | 22:16 |
| f13 | I gotta get some perks | 22:16 |
| f13 | being up at 4~am sucks | 22:17 |
| themayor | hahaha, sorry | 22:17 |
| themayor | anyway | 22:17 |
| moixs | Btw, it's perfectly fine for docs to do these, if they communicate witht the translation teams. | 22:18 |
| themayor | i think much like the talking points, we need to have a one pager like "What You Need to Know About F11" | 22:18 |
| moixs | We "just" have to activate the NDN at the end | 22:18 |
| themayor | okay so is that what we want to do | 22:18 |
| themayor | yes | 22:18 |
| themayor | last time we did well | 22:18 |
| moixs | yep | 22:18 |
| themayor | we need to meet with everyone the day before the release | 22:18 |
| moixs | I faced one problem for the beta | 22:19 |
| moixs | I wasn't completely aware which translations were made, so the portuguese translated the text 2 times... | 22:19 |
| themayor | okay so maybe we should add a checklist | 22:19 |
| moixs | So it would be nice to have links to all the translations 2-3 days before :D | 22:19 |
| moixs | lesson learned :D | 22:20 |
| themayor | okay so how about we set a 1 week deadline | 22:20 |
| moixs | you should really handle it in the RC meeting | 22:20 |
| moixs | I think | 22:20 |
| themayor | no im saying 1 week before the release to have everything | 22:20 |
| moixs | ah, 2-3 days is enough | 22:21 |
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| themayor | and yes, i will talk with diego before the RC meeting | 22:21 |
| moixs | (k) | 22:21 |
| themayor | moixs: yeah if we say 1 week itll happen 2-3 days before right | 22:21 |
| moixs | :D | 22:21 |
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| moixs | What we need is | 22:22 |
| themayor | okay | 22:22 |
| themayor | yeah | 22:22 |
| themayor | go ahead | 22:22 |
| moixs | 1) When the docs produce the release announcement | 22:22 |
| moixs | 2) If translation can provide all the NDN languages in time | 22:23 |
| moixs | and that's about it | 22:23 |
| themayor | okay i will talk to diego on friday about it | 22:23 |
| themayor | and art | 22:23 |
| themayor | idk art seems to be hard to get in touch with | 22:23 |
| themayor | they are soooo busy with stuff | 22:24 |
| moixs | yup, for the press kit we need some form of "finalized" art | 22:24 |
| moixs | and for the screenshots page :p | 22:24 |
| themayor | we need them to go over what we come up with to make sure we are using the logo properly, etc | 22:24 |
| moixs | too | 22:24 |
| themayor | okay so right now, lets make a task list of thing we are working on need to get done | 22:25 |
| themayor | moixs: you want to go first? | 22:25 |
| moixs | okay | 22:25 |
| moixs | The most urgent thing are the press kits IMO. As you have probably seen, there are some available in FR | 22:26 |
| moixs | There is also one in EN | 22:26 |
| themayor | correct | 22:27 |
| moixs | Somehow, we need to mix them and translate the lot :D | 22:27 |
| themayor | okay | 22:27 |
| themayor | so you sent me the press kits today | 22:27 |
| moixs | First question I see: which format? | 22:27 |
| themayor | pdf and on the web | 22:27 |
| moixs | yep, to you and herlo, so you het an idea how they look like | 22:27 |
| * herlo is looking forward to them | 22:28 | |
| themayor | okay, i have the pdf of the stuff | 22:28 |
| themayor | i will get those translated | 22:28 |
| themayor | and merged in with what we have | 22:28 |
| themayor | im going to be working on the press kit this weekend | 22:28 |
| moixs | If we want to print them, we need some weeks (print + distribution to the right people) | 22:28 |
| themayor | i hope to have the first solid "beta" next week | 22:29 |
| moixs | so the delay is quite short | 22:29 |
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| themayor | okay anything else from you | 22:30 |
| moixs | Do you want to taky my design for the printed kits and yours for the web kits? | 22:30 |
| moixs | I'm done :) | 22:30 |
| themayor | yeah sounds good | 22:30 |
| themayor | anyway what we are working on is standard page layout | 22:31 |
| moixs | I'll provide the SVG files as soon as I have them | 22:31 |
| themayor | yours is more complex but better to hand out | 22:31 |
| themayor | okay i look forward to seeing them | 22:31 |
| moixs | yes, it was designed only for that | 22:31 |
| themayor | other than the press kits, is there anything else of importance? | 22:32 |
| themayor | thats a big focus as it should well be | 22:32 |
| themayor | i was hoping yanstadel would be here to talk about what he is doing with the faces of fedora stuff too but he isnt | 22:32 |
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| * herlo has one thing to mention | 22:33 | |
| themayor | yeah b ro | 22:33 |
| herlo | but it's not really related to release stuff | 22:33 |
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| herlo | it's about Fedora Classroom, and a request for promotion from Marketing. | 22:33 |
| themayor | okay go | 22:33 |
| herlo | we're going to be changing the way it works from two sessions scheduled to a whole day of presentations, once a month | 22:34 |
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| herlo | the goal is to focus on those who are less familiar with the tools in Fedora. We've been looking at #fedora and fedoraforum.org as our main focus. | 22:34 |
| herlo | this is so we can bring more contributors (hopefully) through that channel | 22:35 |
| herlo | but we were wondering if there was a good way to promote this easily and through the same distribution channels used by Fedora Marketing. | 22:35 |
| herlo | thoughts? | 22:35 |
| moixs | You want to find people to give classes, right? | 22:35 |
| herlo | and people to attend, yes | 22:36 |
| herlo | we're looking to the Linux community at large here, at least I think that's where we want to go | 22:36 |
| herlo | currently, it's more of a limited scope. It'd be a perfect op to get new contributors excited about certain topics | 22:36 |
| moixs | I think that your best bet would be to contact different community Fedora websites (I can handle it for fedora-fr) | 22:37 |
| moixs | and ask them to post a news | 22:37 |
| moixs | or put a sticky on the forums | 22:37 |
| herlo | yeah, that could work. | 22:37 |
| moixs | But it doesn't really fit the standard distribution channels | 22:38 |
| moixs | (I think) | 22:38 |
| herlo | I'm hoping that this wouldn't just be for Fedora Classroom, however. I can see this being a more general approach to marketing Fedora overall. Think about all the services we provide and maybe we could do a spotlight or something once a month/quarter in Fedora classroom. | 22:38 |
| herlo | anyway, it's just a thought, I'd like to leave it like thsi for now, and get some people mulling it over and talk next time | 22:39 |
| moixs | Oh yes, this isn't a problem...for these kind of things we can use the NDN | 22:39 |
| herlo | thanks themayor | 22:39 |
| herlo | thanks moixs | 22:39 |
| themayor | herlo: its good | 22:39 |
| herlo | :) I'm glad you guys like the idea... | 22:40 |
| themayor | i think also doing something on marketing once a month is a good idea if people want to hear it | 22:40 |
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| moixs | But we need a complete "story" about the classrooms then, to make interesting :D | 22:40 |
| herlo | moixs: I agree | 22:41 |
| * herlo will be working on that | 22:41 | |
| themayor | okay so herlo you want to work on that end of things and put something up on the wiki by next meeting? | 22:41 |
| moixs | herlo: fine, for the distribution it needs to be in the next 12 weeks or 2-3 weeks after the F11 release. Too much stress on the media otherwise :p | 22:42 |
| herlo | I will do my best yes | 22:42 |
| moixs | 1-2, not 12 | 22:42 |
| herlo | moixs: yeah, just putting the seeds in now, to get started | 22:42 |
| themayor | yes, but for now its good to start planting some seeds on the wiki | 22:43 |
| themayor | herlo: exactly :) | 22:43 |
| herlo | yep | 22:43 |
| * herlo has a general plan in mind, so I'll start with Fedora Classroom as an example. | 22:44 | |
| moixs | Ok, next point? | 22:44 |
| moixs | I want to release the "(Wiki) Own, clean, revitalize UserTestimonials" task. I picked it up to discuss its usefulness with my class during the last weeks. | 22:45 |
| moixs | We discussed about it :) | 22:45 |
| moixs | And considered it useless with our current manpower (or lack of) | 22:45 |
| moixs | Any comments? | 22:45 |
| themayor | yes | 22:46 |
| themayor | i think we should go ahead and do it | 22:46 |
| themayor | i started getting testimonials | 22:47 |
| moixs | can you take ownership of it? | 22:47 |
| themayor | so put it under my name | 22:47 |
| moixs | ok, I'll change it on the wiki, thanks :) | 22:47 |
| themayor | no problem | 22:48 |
| moixs | done | 22:48 |
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| themayor | okay thats fine | 22:49 |
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| themayor | alright, i guess the main overbearing things are press kits and we have part of that done already | 22:49 |
| moixs | I also added you for the press kit task | 22:50 |
| moixs | yep | 22:50 |
| moixs | looks like we are done for this meeting? | 22:50 |
| themayor | yup, alright, im going to aim for next week to have them at a solid beta point looking for people to overlook them | 22:50 |
| themayor | and then we can move from there to post-release tasks | 22:50 |
| themayor | it sounds good | 22:50 |