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Fedora Release Engineering Meeting :: Monday 2007-10-15

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<tr id="t13:00"><td class="other" colspan="2">{{Template:Tip}} f13 changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Release Engineering Meeting</td><td><a href="#t13:00" class="time">13:00</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t13:00"><td class="action" colspan="2">* jeremy is here, although on a laptop testing spree</td><td><a href="#t13:00" class="time">13:00</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t13:01"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> f13</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">spot: rdieter: jwb: poelcat: wwoods: ping</td><td class="time"><a href="#t13:01" class="time">13:01</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t13:01"><td class="action" colspan="2">* rdieter here</td><td><a href="#t13:01" class="time">13:01</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t13:01"><td class="action" colspan="2">* spot is here</td><td><a href="#t13:01" class="time">13:01</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t13:02"><td class="action" colspan="2">* poelcat here</td><td><a href="#t13:02" class="time">13:02</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t13:03"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> f13</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">ok, well I don't have anything on the official agenda.</td><td class="time"><a href="#t13:03" class="time">13:03</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t13:03"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> f13</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">It's still business as usual and moving forward to F8 release.  I need to inform legal of our name choice, but that's the only "pending" item I have.</td><td class="time"><a href="#t13:03" class="time">13:03</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t13:03"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> f13</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">I'm writing up a draft for the proposed changes to the development cycle for F9</td><td class="time"><a href="#t13:03" class="time">13:03</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t13:04"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> f13</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">(going toward Beta/RC/Final, with a non-blocking alpha snapshot thrown in)</td><td class="time"><a href="#t13:04" class="time">13:04</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t13:04"><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e"> jeremy</th><td class="text" style="color: #42427e">sounds groovy</td><td class="time"><a href="#t13:04" class="time">13:04</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t13:05"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> f13</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">I also put my needbuild generation list into a continuous loop, with a 30 minute delay each loop, so the list should be pretty up to date.</td><td class="time"><a href="#t13:05" class="time">13:05</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t13:05"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> f13</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">we don't want to block this release for them, but next release I'm going to start filing bugs for the things not built and attaching them to a tracker.</td><td class="time"><a href="#t13:05" class="time">13:05</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t13:07"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> f13</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">does anybody else have anything for this meeting?</td><td class="time"><a href="#t13:07" class="time">13:07</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t13:07"><th class="nick" style="background: #818144"> warren</th><td class="text" style="color: #818144">f13, why doesn't rel-eng rebuild anymore?</td><td class="time"><a href="#t13:07" class="time">13:07</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t13:07"><th class="nick" style="background: #818144"> warren</th><td class="text" style="color: #818144">like in the past</td><td class="time"><a href="#t13:07" class="time">13:07</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t13:07"><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e"> jeremy</th><td class="text" style="color: #42427e">we should probably be keeping a close eye on incoming rawhide bugs</td><td class="time"><a href="#t13:07" class="time">13:07</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t13:07"><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e"> jeremy</th><td class="text" style="color: #42427e">(someone should at least)</td><td class="time"><a href="#t13:07" class="time">13:07</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t13:07"><th class="nick" style="background: #854685"> notting</th><td class="text" style="color: #854685">ok</td><td class="time"><a href="#t13:07" class="time">13:07</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t13:07"><th class="nick" style="background: #818144"> warren</th><td class="text" style="color: #818144">jeremy, is there an easy way to subscribe to the rawhide firehose?</td><td class="time"><a href="#t13:07" class="time">13:07</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t13:07"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> f13</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">warren: we did when it was critical, like say the ppc selinux stuff.</td><td class="time"><a href="#t13:07" class="time">13:07</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t13:08"><th class="nick" style="background: #818144"> warren</th><td class="text" style="color: #818144">oh</td><td class="time"><a href="#t13:08" class="time">13:08</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t13:08"><th class="nick" style="background: #818144"> warren</th><td class="text" style="color: #818144">ok</td><td class="time"><a href="#t13:08" class="time">13:08</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t13:08"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> f13</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">warren: the problem with releng doing it is that we don't take into account any outstanding bugs, any upstream changes, any needed spec changes, anything like that.</td><td class="time"><a href="#t13:08" class="time">13:08</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t13:08"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> f13</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">warren: it's just purely an automated bump and build.  It's a lot better of maintainers actually do this and take all those above things into account.</td><td class="time"><a href="#t13:08" class="time">13:08</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t13:09"><th class="nick" style="background: #488888"> rdieter</th><td class="text" style="color: #488888">fyi, still working on kde-3.5.8 builds, should finish that up today (esp now that f13 reminded me about using 'chain-build')</td><td class="time"><a href="#t13:09" class="time">13:09</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t13:11"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> f13</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">ah ok.  jeremy probably wanted to know that too (:</td><td class="time"><a href="#t13:11" class="time">13:11</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t13:11"><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e"> jeremy</th><td class="text" style="color: #42427e">indeed.  I'll hold off on kde live cd until tomorrow then</td><td class="time"><a href="#t13:11" class="time">13:11</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t13:11"><th class="nick" style="background: #488888"> rdieter</th><td class="text" style="color: #488888">jeremy: I'll make sure to let you know when everything is good to go.</td><td class="time"><a href="#t13:11" class="time">13:11</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t13:11"><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e"> jeremy</th><td class="text" style="color: #42427e">rdieter: thanks</td><td class="time"><a href="#t13:11" class="time">13:11</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t13:12"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> f13</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">anything else?</td><td class="time"><a href="#t13:12" class="time">13:12</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t13:13"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> f13</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">Ok, meeting closed.  Thanks folks.</td><td class="time"><a href="#t13:13" class="time">13:13</a></td></tr>
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