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== Participants ==
== Participants ==


* [[KevinKofler]]
* [[RexDieter]]
* [[SebastianVahl]]
* [[StevenParrish]]
* [[ThanNgo]]




== Agenda ==
== Agenda ==
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* topics to discuss:
* topics to discuss:
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** Fedora 10 Beta ([http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/10/Schedule Release Schedule])
** Fedora 10 Beta ([http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/10/Schedule Release Schedule])
** Echo Icon Theme will be default in F10, what will we use in KDE? ([https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-desktop-list/2008-September/msg00002.html 1], [https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-desktop-list/2008-September/msg00005.html 2])
** Echo Icon Theme will be default in F10, what will we use in KDE? ([https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-desktop-list/2008-September/msg00002.html 1], [https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-desktop-list/2008-September/msg00005.html 2])
** Fedora User Guide for F10 ([https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-docs-list/2008-September/msg00019.html 1],[https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User_Guide#Tour_of_the_KDE_Desktop 2],[https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User_Guide_tasks 3],[https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User_Guide-Tour_of_the_KDE_Desktop 4])


== Transcript ==
== Transcript ==
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== Summary ==
== Summary ==


''' FUDCon Brno report '''
* KevinKofler reported from the [[FUDCon/FUDConBrno2008|FUDCON]] in Brno.
* The KDE-SIG was represented by [[KevinKofler]], [[LukasTinkl]] and [[JaroslavReznik]].
* They held a [[JaroslavReznik/Presentations/FUDCon2008Brno|presentation]] about the "pillars of KDE 4" with small examples of how to use them as a developer and gave an overview of the goals with KDE4 in Fedora.
''' KDE-4.1.1 status '''
* KDE 4.1.1 is already built for F9 and [https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/kdeaccessibility-4.1.1-1.fc9,kdeadmin-4.1.1-1.fc9,kdeartwork-4.1.1-1.fc9,kdebase-4.1.1-1.fc9,kdebase-runtime-4.1.1-2.fc9,kdebase-workspace-4.1.1-1.fc9,kdebindings-4.1.1-1.fc9,kdeedu-4.1.1-1.fc9,kdegames-4.1.1-1.fc9,kdegraphics-4.1.1-1.fc9,kdelibs-4.1.1-5.fc9,kdemultimedia-4.1.1-1.fc9,kdenetwork-4.1.1-1.fc9,kdepimlibs-4.1.1-2.fc9,kdeplasma-addons-4.1.1-1.fc9,kdesdk-4.1.1-1.fc9,kdetoys-4.1.1-1.fc9,kdeutils-4.1.1-1.fc9,guidance-power-manager-4.1.1-1.fc9,kiconedit-4.1.1-1.fc9,konq-plugins-4.1.1-1.fc9,kcoloredit-4.1.1-1.fc9,kde-l10n-4.1.1-1.fc9 queued for updates-testing].
* Also the KDE4-parts in Fedora 8 are [https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/kdebase4-4.1.1-1.fc8,kdelibs4-4.1.1-5.fc8,kdepimlibs-4.1.1-2.fc8,kdebase-runtime-4.1.1-2.fc8 queued for updates-testing].
* KDE 4.1.1 will stay in testing for one week and then go stable.
''' Fedora 10 Beta (Release Schedule) '''
* Fedora 10 Beta will still use nm-applet for controlling NetworkManager.
* The NetworkManager plasmoid isn't ready yet (it was scheduled for August).
* Alternatives would be the [http://websvn.kde.org/branches/work/knetworkmanager/knetworkmanager-0.7/ KDE3 based] and [http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/playground/utils/knetworkmanager4/ KDE4 based] knetworkmanager (but the latter didn't get many development in the past).
* [[SebastianVahl]] reported about the current state of the live images:
** The Beta will likely come with this [http://www.deadbabylon.de/fedora/livecd/packagelists/f10/long-F10-KDE4-040-i686.txt package list] and this [http://www.deadbabylon.de/fedora/livecd/kickstarts/f10/F10-KDE4-040.ks kickstart].
** Main differences to the Alpha are: only @fonts (and so no additional fonts), without amarok (space issues)
** kdelibs3 will still be on the live images (required by k3b, konversation, kftpgrabber, filelight, ksshaskpass)
''' Echo Icon Theme will be default in F10, what will we use in KDE?'''
* [[RexDieter]] tested Echo as first fallback in Fedora-KDE (before Oxygen) and reported it was working well for KDE4 apps.
* KDE3 apps still have to rely on CrystalSVG.
* kde-settings will be prepared to use Echo in Rawhide for testing.
''' Fedora User Guide for F10'''
* The [https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User_Guide-Tour_of_the_KDE_Desktop "current" user guide for the KDE Desktop] is still based on Fedora 8.
* We'll need some volunteers to update it for Fedora 10 (KDE 4.1) and also Fedora 9 (KDE 4.0).
''' Additional notes '''


* KDE 3.5.10 is queued for updates-testing in [https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/kdeaddons-3.5.10-1.fc9,arts-1.5.10-1.fc9,kdelibs3-3.5.10-1.fc9,kdebase3-3.5.10-1.fc9,kde-i18n-3.5.10-1.fc9,kdepim-3.5.10-1.fc9,kdewebdev-3.5.10-1.fc9,kdevelop-3.5.3-1.fc9,kdegames3-3.5.10-1.fc9 Fedora 8] (whole desktop) and [https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/kdeaddons-3.5.10-1.fc9,arts-1.5.10-1.fc9,kdelibs3-3.5.10-1.fc9,kdebase3-3.5.10-1.fc9,kde-i18n-3.5.10-1.fc9,kdepim-3.5.10-1.fc9,kdewebdev-3.5.10-1.fc9,kdevelop-3.5.3-1.fc9,kdegames3-3.5.10-1.fc9 Fedora 9] (only KDE3 parts).
* The [https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=461011 review] of [http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Lancelot?content=87914 kde-plasma-lancelot] will be finished today.


== Comments ==
== Comments ==


(These comments are written after the meeting)
(These comments are written after the meeting)

Revision as of 09:15, 10 September 2008

Meeting Time

Participants


Agenda

  • topics to discuss:
    • FUDCon Brno report
    • KDE-4.1.1 status
    • Fedora 10 Beta (Release Schedule)
    • Echo Icon Theme will be default in F10, what will we use in KDE? (1, 2)
    • Fedora User Guide for F10 (1,2,3,4)

Transcript

Summary

FUDCon Brno report

  • KevinKofler reported from the FUDCON in Brno.
  • The KDE-SIG was represented by KevinKofler, LukasTinkl and JaroslavReznik.
  • They held a presentation about the "pillars of KDE 4" with small examples of how to use them as a developer and gave an overview of the goals with KDE4 in Fedora.

KDE-4.1.1 status

Fedora 10 Beta (Release Schedule)

  • Fedora 10 Beta will still use nm-applet for controlling NetworkManager.
  • The NetworkManager plasmoid isn't ready yet (it was scheduled for August).
  • Alternatives would be the KDE3 based and KDE4 based knetworkmanager (but the latter didn't get many development in the past).
  • SebastianVahl reported about the current state of the live images:
    • The Beta will likely come with this package list and this kickstart.
    • Main differences to the Alpha are: only @fonts (and so no additional fonts), without amarok (space issues)
    • kdelibs3 will still be on the live images (required by k3b, konversation, kftpgrabber, filelight, ksshaskpass)

Echo Icon Theme will be default in F10, what will we use in KDE?

  • RexDieter tested Echo as first fallback in Fedora-KDE (before Oxygen) and reported it was working well for KDE4 apps.
  • KDE3 apps still have to rely on CrystalSVG.
  • kde-settings will be prepared to use Echo in Rawhide for testing.

Fedora User Guide for F10

Additional notes

Comments

(These comments are written after the meeting)

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