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This page describes the process followed by the Marketing team to make a talking points for a Fedora release. If you have suggestions on how to improve these instructions, please edit the page!

Page Progress

This page is a draft only
It is still under construction and content may change. Do not rely on the information on this page.

Needed to complete this page:

  • ask pfrields/mchua about having non-Feature talking points, what should be done, are they even allowed, etc.
  • Need to have email template for participation call, and announcement. Placeholder is on this wiki page.
  • Talk to dramsey about his thoughts on how he came up with some of his proposals.
  • Need to update Fedora 13 Talking Points page with suggestions sent to mailing list by stickster on 2/15


Talking Points

TalkingPoints are key features of the new release that we want to point out. There are different types of talking points for different types of people: users, developers, sysadmins, and more. They are meant to answer the question" so what cool stuff is in the latest release of Fedora?"

Talking points are developed over the course of the release. We select a release's talking points immediately after feature freeze. This helps us begin crafting the general story that the release might tell. By identifying the stuff that seems really cool early on, we can help lean on those developers to ensure that the feature makes the next release.

Once the release is out and ready, talking points help us drum up excitement about it, and to keep ourselves informed and inspired about how we're continuing to move ahead with every new release of Fedora that comes out.

Feature List

FeatureList, quite simply, is the list of highlighted Features in the current Fedora release cycle. Features are accepted each cycle by FESCo.

Talking point selection

There are two criteria:

  1. general level of coolness
  2. likelihood that the feature will make the release

Some notes:

  • Only the top three talking points are required, fit in as many as you can
  • We can go up to five required, if they are short, sweet, and good
  • Anything beyond that is too long, but judge yourself in your announcement
  • We'll add points and move the order around until a good set arrives


Create the Talking Points page

Using the prior talking points page as a template, create a new wiki page for the talking points of the current release, purging outdated content and updating it to reflect the working release's name and dates. The naming scheme is "F# talking points" where # is the number of the release (i.e. F12 talking points). Make sure the page is listed under,, and (where # is the number of the release). Create redirects to the "F# talking points" page from commonly mistyped pages and variants on capitalization, such as:

  • F# Talking Points
  • F# talking Points
  • Fedora# Talking Points
  • Fedora # Talking Points
  • Fedora# talking points

Line up the features for discussion

Seed initial talking points discussion

Call for participation

Round up feedback

Final deliberation

Announce the talking points

Create the talking points final display

Announce the talking points final display

Dramsey magic sauce

  • get list of features
  • consult magic pwnies
  •  ???
  • Profit!

Basic Talking Points Template

Mandatory Content

According to what was in the FC-6 announcement , there is nothing mandatory. However, prior talking points have consisted of 3 sections. For some releases, including F13. a fourth section devoted to spins will be used.

For desktop users and everyone

List 2-4 bullet items here for innovations in Fedora 13 that will be of general interest to most people using F13. The best talking points are differentiators between F13 and other distributions -- newer software, specific improvements, or cases where Fedora contributors either are, or work directly with, the upstream project(s).

For administrators

List 2-4 bullet items here for innovations that help make system administrators' lives better.

For developers

List 1-3 bullet items here that discuss innovations that make Fedora a great platform for software developers.


List 1 - 3 bullet items, each covering a specific Fedora spin's new highlights.

Please Mention Somewhere

1. If you are upgrading your Fedora install, do yourself a favor and read the release notes. Changes, such as the need for file system labels, can have a major impact on your upgrade experience.

Send out call for Talking Points pick-apart-and-make-nice

After you have a rough list of what talking points should be included, send a mail marketing [at] and devel [at] asking for comments on the proposed Talking Points. This should take place at the beginning of the "Create Talking Points" marketing task (see magic marketing tasks for F# release list) and the call should close at the end of said task.

Be sure to note in the mail that the list is to be finalized and approved by the Marketing team and the FPL.

Email Template for Call for Participation on Talking Points

Need content here!

Email announcement for Finalized Talking Points

Need content here!

Rough Schedule

  • Fedora n-1 release + 1 week: clone wiki pages for new release, including the Talking Points page
  • Feature Freeze: The list of possible Talking Points should be decided on. Send mail to devel and marketing lists for comments.
  • Feature Freeze + 1 week: Talking points decided by Marketing team.

Other Considerations

Population of list prior to announcement

The Talking Points page is created as a placeholder at the beginning of each cycle, per the Marketing Schedule deliverable of recycling all wiki pages at the beginning of each cycle. Since the placeholder is there, and it is a wiki, it is fair game for editing, and community members may - and most likely will - begin to populate the page with proposed Talking Points prior to the email call for participation on Talking Points.

Talking Points and Feature List are buddies!

Talking Points come from the Feature List. Not all Feature List items are Talking Points. When the Talking Points list is finalized, one should double-check that the Talking Points are actually on the Feature List. If not, they should be likely not be on the Talking Points(?). If the Talking Point is insanely awesome ("Fedora Now Does your Laundry!") steps should be taken to see if it should truly be listed as a Talking Point due to special circumstances (ie, it is necessary for marketing purposes, something has become popular which isn't necessarily a new feature but ...

As a point of reference, the Feature List is finalized 2010-02-09 for the Fedora 13 timeframe. In general, the Feature List is finalized approximately one week prior to the kick-off of Talking Points development.