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<h1>IRC Log of FAMSCo Meeting - 24 Mar 2008</h1>
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<tr><td class="action" colspan="3">* spevack waves</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">ok, we can start</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">roll call</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">FrancescoUgolini</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e">jmbuser_</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #42427e">JohnBabich</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #818144">fabian_a</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #818144">FabianAffolter</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">spevack</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">Max Spevack</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">good</td></tr>
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<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">This is a special meeting</td></tr>
<tr><td class="other" colspan="3">Nick=>jmbuser_ is now known as jmbuser.</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #488888">stickster</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #488888">PaulFrields audits</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">According to "FAmSCo "special" meeting reminder - Monday 24th at 20.00 UTC" mail</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">today's meeting agenda is:</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">1. Define Fedora Event Budget criterias</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">2. Event Reporting Guidelines</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">3. Ambassadors' pages list</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">Starting from the first one</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">jeffrey today can't be here</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">spevack</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">I wrote an email about the first one about an hour ago</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">spevack</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">did anyone have a chance to read it?</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">spevack: just read</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #8c4a4a">jmbuser</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #8c4a4a">yes</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">jeffrey today can't be here, he sent a post in the list (hoping you read it), the key point he expressed was:</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">that it's necessary to define a standardize </td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">amount that we could give for each event</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">and to figure out some key criteria </td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">that we need to know of an event</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">(that's the first part of his mail, read it to understand better=</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">for the first issue he proposed to set a base per event</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">e.g. 100 attendes = 300$</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">spevack</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">my thoughts were that</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">spevack</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">it is a function of (1) size and (2) region</td></tr>
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<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">spevack</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">and (3) how much sharing of materials can be done between ambassadors in the same region</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">spevack</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">for example, if we can make a bunch of DVDs for North America, and send them to a variety of events</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">spevack</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">anyway</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">spevack</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">i wrote this up longer in my email</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">spevack</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">as a proposal</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">spevack</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">what did people think of my idea of beginning to discuss it on the main ambassadors list?</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">i think we have to discuss before in the list</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">to have an approximative idea</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">spevack</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">i want to give all of FAMSCo an opportunity to read my mail and respond, and we will have our discussion.</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">spevack</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">especially Jeffrey</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">we can risk to start a long time discussion without an head</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">*a</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">we could use the past events to determine the presumtive amount</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">spevack</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">fugolini: you're right.  We need to have the first idea of some general parameters</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">spevack</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">for example</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">spevack</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">jmbuser: what do you think?</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">spevack</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">we have $12k to divide each quarter.</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">spevack</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">we want to represent regions fairly</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">spevack</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">based on how much activity is in each region</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">spevack</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">and the size of the shows</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">spevack</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">and the comparative "importance" of the shows</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">spevack</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">this shouldn't be too hard to do in a reasonably fair way</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">spevack: i see in your blog a map of the regional activity, could be available for the determination of the amount of resources?</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">spevack</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">fugolini: perhaps.  But also, we just need to ask the Ambassadors who own each show to give us some idea of the size.</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">finally: </td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">spevack</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">I just don't want to make this more complicated than it needs to be.  If there are 10 shows, then we can start by saying "well, the average show gets $1,200"  And then we look at each show and see if it is "bigger" or "smaller" than average.</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #8c4a4a">jmbuser</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #8c4a4a">spevack: sorry - I agree with the approach so far</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">spevack</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">anyway, i think we can discuss this on the list in that thread.  maybe we should move on?  does anyone else have comments?</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">finally: </td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #4b904b">GeroldKa</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #4b904b">!</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">(i was tring to resume .)</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">GeroldKa: </td></tr>
<tr><td class="action" colspan="3">* fugolini is lagged</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #4b904b">GeroldKa</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #4b904b">we (as Fedora Emea e.V.) are also creating or try to create</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #4b904b">GeroldKa</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #4b904b">a form which should be used for each event in EMEA</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #4b904b">GeroldKa</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #4b904b">BEFORE (goal is one year before) the event starts</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #4b904b">GeroldKa</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #4b904b">and should also be a budget plan</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #4b904b">GeroldKa</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #4b904b">because we think it's important for us to see, how we spend our money also for Fedora Project as Project AND</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #4b904b">GeroldKa</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #4b904b">also for Red Hat</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">spevack</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">GeroldKa: that's excellent.  Part of what I hope is that FAMSCo can simply maybe divide money up among regions, and then allow the 2 or 3 Ambassadors who own events in each region to talk amongst themselves a bit on how to further subdivide it.</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #4b904b">GeroldKa</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #4b904b">hope you find this usefull and you're willing to have a look for our "form"</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">spevack</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">We have more discussion to do... I think maybe we will try a few strategies this year and see what works best</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #4b904b">GeroldKa</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #4b904b">eof</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">spevack</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">fugolini: i think that as long as we are clear to the Ambassadors and that FAMSCo keeps an open mind, we will be successful in the end.</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">spevack</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">the best governance is the one that does the least necessary.</td></tr>
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<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">spevack</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">EOF</td></tr>
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<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">Define Fedora Event Budget criterias : we will finish the discussion on the list, then we will open it to Ambs list</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">next issue: 2. Event Reporting Guidelines</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">fomr jeffrey post:</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">I posted an announcement to the Ambasssadors list and added a page to</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">the wiki to help cover this for Ambassadors.  We may still need to</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">address the "hard" numbers.  I.E. what numbers do we really want an</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">ambassador to send us after an event?</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">Like the previsous discussion</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">i think we have to create a base scheme</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">as you say a lot of time we need open reports</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">spevack</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">who owns this item?  Jeffrey?</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">it's part of the reporting guidelines yep</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">spevack</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">I feel like I am one of the owners of the budget item, by the way.  I consider myself accountable for making sure that gets figured out</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">ok</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">i think it could be usefull</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">just to have some based data</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">this item is connected with our first issue</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">if we know how many attendees at the booth etc... </td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">we could able to work over reosurce destinations</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">*resources'</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">spevack</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">Off the top of my head:</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">spevack</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">here is the minimum stuff I would want to see</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">spevack</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">1) how many Fedora representatives were there?</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">spevack</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">2) how many (if any) Red Hat employees were there?</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">spevack</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">3) about how many people total attended the event?</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">spevack</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">4) what were the most popular questions at the booth?</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">spevack</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">there was an email that had many, many good suggestions in it</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">i think this discussion, like the other, needs to be discussed in the list</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">the IRC meeting is usefull because we can figure out the core issues</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">and then we can manage better the work</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">someone else want to say something?</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #8c4a4a">jmbuser</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #8c4a4a">!</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">jmbuser: </td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #8c4a4a">jmbuser</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #8c4a4a">I agree that this meeting is great for organizing topics to better present to the mailing list - that way we can get the best response from the list</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">spevack</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">it seems like most of our work right now is all list-related</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #8c4a4a">jmbuser</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #8c4a4a">then the decision is well thought-out and transparent</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">spevack</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">what othe rthings do we need to talk about on IRC today?</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">i'm Quit=>e tedious during the meeting (sometime in the list too)</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #8c4a4a">jmbuser</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #8c4a4a">eof</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">spevack: Ambassadors pages Clean Up</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">i've try to make a list </td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">like you suggested</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">i review some of the pages</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">i'm working over it</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">many pages are ok</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">but there are a lot of page out-of-date</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">i think it would be necessary to contact the creators of those ones</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">spevack</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">fugolini: this is also an important task</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">spevack</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">because soon we will move to a new wiki instance</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">spevack</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">and if we can identify pages that are old and delete them now</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">spevack</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">there is less data to migrate</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40"><a href="http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/SteeringCommittee/CleanUpPages">http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/SteeringCommittee/CleanUpPages</a></td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">when i wrote update</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">it means that this page is out-of-date</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">and could be deleted if nobody will not care of it</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">i faced some difficulties understand the local ambassadors pages</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">so i didn't take care of them</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #8c4a4a">jmbuser</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #8c4a4a">!</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">i'm waiting the next EMEA meeting and i just post in the M-L a mail to thomas cannoit</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">*canniot</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">jmbuser: </td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #8c4a4a">jmbuser</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #8c4a4a">I cleaned up and rearranged <a href="http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/SteeringCommittee/Meetings">http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/SteeringCommittee/Meetings</a></td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #8c4a4a">jmbuser</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #8c4a4a">so that the meetings are in reverse chronological order</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #8c4a4a">jmbuser</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #8c4a4a">eof</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">i saw it</td></tr>
<tr><td class="other" colspan="3">Quit=>tibbs has left this server ("Konversation terminated!").</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">moreover i saw a lot of redoundant pages </td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">that have content from other pages</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">e.g. Infrastucture (alias, AS)</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">*other pages from other sub-project</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">i think we could semplify everything</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">redirecting to the right pages</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">spevack</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">fugolini: +1, i trust your judgement on what is important</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">another task is Ambassadors home page</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">i think we could discuss about this after we review and cleaned all the pages</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">so we have a clear map of what we have and what we have not</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">*we could have</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">done</td></tr>
<tr><td class="other" colspan="3">Quit=>bpepple|lt has left this server ("Ex-Chat").</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">that's all</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">i invite everyone who see that something in the list is incorrect or have suggestions</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">*sees/has</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">to express those ones</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">spevack</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">I think the cleanup page is great.  i will look through it and make my comments of what i think can be deleted</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #8c4a4a">jmbuser</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #8c4a4a">+1</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">thanks </td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">so if someone has other issue to discuss</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">...</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">*another</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">so i'm going to post my opinion on your mails</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">i think we can adjourn the meeting</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">we are going to have another one this firday</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">we have discussed enought</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">3</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">2</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">spevack</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">thank you francesco</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">1</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">spevack</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">let's try to have made progress on everything by friday</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">spevack</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">so we can approve our decisions and move to new topics!</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">fugolini</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">== Meeting adjourned ==</td></tr>
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