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| AndreasR | AndreasRau is here too | |
| fugolini | FrancescoUgolini | |
| fabian_a | FabianAffolter | |
| AndreasR | AndreasRau | |
| spevack | Max is here | |
| spevack | but a bit grumpy | |
| spevack | AndreasR: definitely not smiling tonight! | |
| fugolini | ok, no problem | |
| iWolf | JeffreyTadlock | |
| MrTom | ThomasCanniot | |
| spevack | though it's great to see a big FAMSCo turnout tonight | |
| * fugolini too | ||
| jmbuser | JohnBabich | |
| fugolini | Meeting agenda: | |
| fugolini | 1. Budget status | |
| fugolini | 2. F10 Release Parties: owners preview review | |
| fugolini | 3. Meeting time and date | |
| fugolini | 4. Membership status | |
| fugolini | 5. t.b.d. | |
| spevack | alright | |
| spevack | i guess i'm first? | |
| spevack | since it's budget time. | |
| fugolini | yes | |
| fugolini | it's your turn | |
| spevack | earlier this week, I sent out 4 separate budget-related emails | |
| spevack | to NA, SA, EMEA, and APAC/India ambassadors | |
| spevack | who have had events in September | |
| spevack | getting status reports, and collecting details to send money where needed | |
| spevack | It looks like most events are coming in UNDER budget so far. | |
| spevack | unfortunately MrTom had some logistical problems with PCDL (I don't blame you at all MrTom, I'm just sorry that the event wasn't better for you!). | |
| spevack | other events are pretty much on track. | |
| spevack | So this leads to a couple of good things | |
| spevack | because the "general events" are staying under budget, and because there was extra money left from FUDCon, I feel like we won't have any funding problems for the release events | |
| fugolini | Great | |
| spevack | and I also was able to offer an additional $500 to the FAD NA event | |
| spevack | so that's about it... we're in good shape. | |
| spevack | any questions? | |
| fugolini | Yes | |
| spevack | go ahead | |
| fugolini | I've read your email and personally they help really | |
| fugolini | My question is: for Q4, will us to change something? | |
| fugolini | *will us have | |
| fugolini | Or the system could work as it is? | |
| fugolini | Personally I was feared by the lot of issues | |
| spevack | I think our general workflow is solid, and unless the rest of FAMSCo wants to make changes, I don't anticipate doing things too much differently | |
| fugolini | *requests | |
| spevack | I am here to serve you guys! | |
| fugolini | spevack: thank you | |
| spevack | so if you have a better way or better idea, just tell me! | |
| fugolini | spevack: I just post an idea to track event in a way that it would be possible to query | |
| fugolini | by owner, country etc | |
| fugolini | but we will discuss on the list | |
| spevack | fugolini: here is my comment, for people to think about | |
| spevack | the FedoraEvents page is very easy for an individual ambassador to use and edit. | |
| spevack | It is also pretty easy for FAMSCo or me to look at it and see "oh, these are the events that are coming soon" | |
| spevack | or "these are the events that just finished, i probably should ask the owners if they need money" | |
| spevack | could it be more automated or database driven? sure. | |
| spevack | but | |
| spevack | i think that it would also | |
| spevack | make it a bit harder for people to add events. | |
| spevack | and one thing that i have noticed | |
| spevack | is that even though we sent a bunch of reminders for people to get their events on the page early | |
| spevack | a bunch still came in after our budget deadline. | |
| spevack | so if the barrier to creating an event goes up more, i am quite fearful | |
| spevack | that peole will just ignore the workflow | |
| fugolini | I was moving my question just because today I was facing difficulties trying to search for specific events | |
| spevack | and email famsco directly, which will cause a bigger mess. | |
| spevack | just a thought | |
| spevack | EOF | |
| spevack | i would be interested to hear what everyone else thinks. | |
| fugolini | spevack: thank you | |
| fugolini | Anyone has comments on Budget and/or this issue? | |
| iWolf | I would be inclined to keep the event listing in the wiki. it keeps the hurdle low and provides good visibility for a non-fedora contributor to see if we are going to be in the area at a conference. | |
| fugolini | jmbuser | |
| jmbuser | I agree with keeping it on the wiki so people can easily add events | |
| jmbuser | EOF | |
| fugolini | AndreasR: | |
| fabian_a | ! | |
| AndreasR | Okay, you are right why make it bigger... I think your comment was very clear | |
| AndreasR | I didn't thought about that | |
| AndreasR | eof | |
| fugolini | MrTom: | |
| MrTom | i think editing the wiki is not that difficult. It is very easy to understand how it works... just copy and paste. Having a webapp would need wok again from the infrastructure team I think, and management from someone again. EOF | |
| fugolini | fabian_a | |
| fugolini | ! | |
| spevack | MrTom: +1 -- who's going to have time to make the webapp. Websites and Infrastructure are already overloaded. | |
| spevack | ! | |
| fabian_a | if the events are no longer at the wiki we will be able to reuse a single entries on the front page as an example | |
| fabian_a | eof | |
| fugolini | sp | |
| fugolini | spevack: | |
| spevack | fugolini: nevermind :) | |
| fugolini | ah | |
| fugolini | As I said, I faced that issue wehn I'll try to get some useful data in a really brief time | |
| fugolini | Probably it was my impression, but I just hate to type ctrl-f and try to filter content | |
| fugolini | BTW, you are right when you say there isn't space to deploy a solution etc. | |
| fugolini | But as FAmSCo is quite made by volunteers that use their free time, I though it could be helpful to give them a fast way to make query | |
| fugolini | But sure, I don't want to annoy more with this issue, just because probably it's something I experienced I. | |
| fugolini | So, just put it in the sandbox, and discuss about next, most important issues | |
| fugolini | 2. F10 Release Parties | |
| fugolini | I just send an email with people budget preview | |
| spevack | ! | |
| fugolini | spevack: | |
| spevack | I thought it was a good email, and that your suggestions made sense. | |
| spevack | I think if we can keep the total bill for F10 release parties in Q3 (so the ones that happen in November) to about $1000 USD or less, we'll be fine. | |
| spevack | For the ones in December (Q4), we will deal with that in the next budget planning round | |
| spevack | fugolini: and thank you very much for your owrk | |
| jmbuser | +1 on thanks | |
| fugolini | spevack: I'm trying to do my best. I have to thank you for all the suggestions and ideas you daily give us | |
| spevack | fugolini: no thanks needed | |
| spevack | but you are welcome :) | |
| fugolini | So, you agree with my last mail about Release Events preview | |
| fugolini | just give me a minute for the adress | |
| spevack | let me go line by line just to be sure | |
| spevack | Bangladesh, $100-$150 | |
| fugolini | https://www.redhat.com/mailman/private/famsco-list/2008-October/msg00008.html | |
| spevack | Thessaloniki, $100-$150 | |
| spevack | Milan: 150-$200 | |
| spevack | yeah, agreed | |
| spevack | Maybe give Bangladesh $200 | |
| fugolini | All agree? | |
| spevack | it won't really matter, and they don't ask for much | |
| spevack | let's give them what they want. | |
| spevack | So I would say: | |
| spevack | Bangladesh/Milan: $200 | |
| spevack | Thessaloniki: up to $150 | |
| spevack | eof | |
| spevack | i think there's enough money floating around the north american pot to take care of all their needs. | |
| spevack | and I'll be in contact with those guys anyway. | |
| fugolini | spevack: that's what I need to know | |
| fugolini | thanks | |
| fugolini | +1 | |
| spevack | fugolini: i think we're in good shape. No bad feelings or worries here | |
| fugolini | That make me happy | |
| fugolini | Any question, suggestion, critic or whateverelse? | |
| MrTom | no | |
| iWolf | none from me | |
| fugolini | Ok, we can move on. | |
| fugolini | 3. Meeting time and date | |
| fugolini | Take a look at this thread: | |
| fugolini | https://www.redhat.com/mailman/private/famsco-list/2008-September/msg00072.html | |
| fugolini | After a discussion, it seems people agreed to hold | |
| fugolini | the meeting on Thursday at 19.00 UTC | |
| fugolini | just take a look at timesanddates.com | |
| fugolini | maybe it's not the correct adress but it sounds like this | |
| fugolini | Any question? | |
| spevack | is that tomorrow? | |
| fugolini | the next week :) | |
| spevack | ok, good. i'm on an airplane tomorrow, and I wanted to attend :) | |
| fugolini | enjoy the travel | |
| spevack | if they have power plug in the seat, i will. ;) | |
| MrTom | it ok for me on thursday evening | |
| fugolini | I tried to figure out, as Fabian suggest, the perfect time from the Calendar page at /Ambassadors/SteeringCommittee/Meeting | |
| iWolf | thursdays are intermittent for me as it conflicts with a $dayjob meeting every other week. | |
| fugolini | *Meetings | |
| fugolini | iWolf: that's a problem, could you suggest an alternative? | |
| AndreasR | ! | |
| fabian_a | ! | |
| fugolini | AndreasR: | |
| iWolf | this Wednesday time generally seems to work well for me. :) | |
| AndreasR | one week Wednesday the other Thursday | |
| AndreasR | eof | |
| fugolini | fabian_a: | |
| fabian_a | for me it will not work before 20.00 utc, sorry | |
| fabian_a | eof | |
| jmbuser | ! | |
| fugolini | fabian_a: the main problem is that with summertime, starting from october the 6th | |
| fugolini | I'll have to wake up really early | |
| fugolini | I don't knwo when we will start reusing sunlight time | |
| fabian_a | i know | |
| fugolini | but with sunlight time 20.00 UTC is ok | |
| spevack | fugolini: not until november | |
| spevack | do the clocks change | |
| spevack | or end of october | |
| spevack | a few weeks | |
| fabian_a | fugolini: this is 22.00 cest | |
| fugolini | fabian_a: for next week I could try, but I can be clearminded | |
| fugolini | but to have a clear mind I need to sleep some time | |
| fugolini | I have to wake up at 3.30 UTC | |
| fabian_a | fugolini: won't worry we will find a way that works for everybody | |
| fugolini | fabian_a: ok, I'll try to stay up | |
| fugolini | maybe sleeping before and after that time | |
| fugolini | jmbuser: | |
| jmbuser | Wednesdays are my weekend, but doable for me | |
| jmbuser | Fridays through Tuesdays are not good - Thursday is best | |
| jmbuser | EOF | |
| fugolini | I think we could alternate meeting, making him once on Wednesday and once on Thursday | |
| fugolini | It's ok? | |
| MrTom | why not yes ! | |
| fabian_a | fugolini: that's definitely not an option...sleeping before and after the meeting | |
| AndreasR | +1 | |
| fabian_a | sure, let's switch the days | |
| jmbuser | +1 | |
| fugolini | fabian_a: sorry i missed the point | |
| fugolini | do you agree with my idea? | |
| fabian_a | +1 | |
| fugolini | Ok, so the motion is accepted | |
| fugolini | Next item: 4. Membership status | |
| fugolini | I want to thank kital for the work he has done | |
| fugolini | during this week we have all experienced the new membership rules change | |
| fugolini | I'm referring to the Ambassadors List welcome | |
| fugolini | but, at the root, the work is going in the right way. Joerg (kital) is updating us about what is happening and that help us a lot | |
| fugolini | I think that's all. | |
| fugolini | Questions, comments or whatever else? | |
| AndreasR | ! | |
| fugolini | AndreasR: | |
| AndreasR | thanks kital | |
| AndreasR | eof | |
| fugolini | absolutely | |
| fugolini | Any question? | |
| * kital hears that ;) | ||
| AndreasR | no :) | |
| fugolini | ok, someone has a topic to discuss? | |
| fugolini | Tomorrow or maybe later this week I'll write an email to FAD NA attendees | |
| fugolini | I can't be there. | |
| fugolini | I'm not sure if someone from FAmSCo could be there | |
| fugolini | iWolf: | |
| spevack | iWolf will be there | |
| fugolini | will you be there? | |
| jmbuser | I can be there | |
| fugolini | So, great. I'll send you the email, along with jmbuser | |
| fugolini | It's one of the most important Ambassadors-related event this year. We will have a FAD EMEA too | |
| GeroldKa | Re: [Famsco-list] EMEA - NA meeting | |
| GeroldKa | Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval. | |
| GeroldKa | The reason it is being held: | |
| GeroldKa | Post by non-member to a members-only list | |
| GeroldKa | sorry :-( | |
| fugolini | GeroldKa: i'll check | |
| fugolini | GeroldKa: give me the time to access administrative interface and I'll check it | |
| fugolini | BTW, fortunately I could join FAD EMEA | |
| fugolini | jmbuser, iWolf you will be the voice of FAmSCo there | |
| GeroldKa | for a Pizza Spaghetti ... | |
| GeroldKa | we will love it :-) | |
| fugolini | GeroldKa: yeah | |
| fugolini | blah... | |
| fugolini | ehehe | |
| AndreasR | .. there is a place for you reserved... and I am doing the nameplates | |
| fugolini | Ok, anything else? | |
| fugolini | What GeroldKa paste, it's the proposal to hold a common meeting with EMEA and NA to discuss about | |
| fugolini | certain topic | |
| fugolini | I personally happy to see this initiative | |
| fugolini | proposed by NA Ambassadors | |
| fugolini | I hope to be able to solve the technical issue | |
| fugolini | Ok, i'm starting meeting count down. | |
| fugolini | 3 | |
| fugolini | 2 | |
| spevack | thank you fugolini | |
| fugolini | 1 | |
| iWolf | fugolini: thanks! | |
| fugolini | == Meeting adjourned == | |
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