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Fedora Project Board Meeting :: Tuesday 2008-08-05
Roll Call
- Attendees: John Poelstra, Chris Tyler, Spot Callaway, Paul Frields, Matt Domsch, Harald Hoyer, Jesse Keating, Karsten Wade, Seth Vidal
- Regrets: Bill Nottingham, Jef Spaleta
Codecs (2008-05-13)
- Need to restart discussion on fedora-advisory-board redhat com to get plans in place at the start of F10
- Chris Aillon to make contact with Bastien Nocera to find out what current plans are
- Waiting on bug 438225 to proceed
- this change will enable auto-provide for codec information
- For Fedora 10 removing Codeina and using the distribution's built-in mechanism to install packages (if 438255) is implemented
- For Fluendo to continue to provide codecs to Fedora they will need to provide them as packages in a yum repo
- This errs on the side of more "free-ish" software
RESOLUTION:
- ACTION :: Paul - request feature page from developer
- FESCo should track bug 438225 since this falls into their mandate
FOLLOWUP (2008-08-05):
- Feature page still in the works and FESCo is tracking bug 438225
Trademark Guidelines (2008-07-01)
- Board would like to help guide the process of expanding the use of the Fedora trademark
- Helpful to brainstorm by thinking of Fedora trademark usage in four ways:
- Things the board wants Fedora to be able to do with the trademark
- Things the board wants the Fedora community to be able to freely do with trademark
- Things the board wants other people to reasonably be expected to be able to do, but ask the Fedora Board first
- Things that the board never wants people to use the Fedora trademark for
- OWNER: Paul Frields
- ACTIONS:
- circulate ideas and foster discussion on fedora-advisory-board@redhat.com list
- return feedback to the board for discussion on: 2008-08-05
- Latest updates: User:Pfrields/NewTrademarkGuidelines (see also discussion tab)
FOLLOWUP (2008-08-05):
- Board definitely wants a Fedora trademark of some sorts for spins and other uses--derivative works
- Still unsure on how best to proceed on issues related to:
- official spins
- unofficial spins
- branded USB keys
- OEM pre-loads
- Fedora business cards
- Fedora apparel and conference materials (see section on Non-software goods)
- Everyone should add uncovered use cases to wiki page (see above) ASAP
- Paul Frields will be working with Red Hat Legal starting this week to move the process forward
board elections (2008-07-01)
- Background:
- Recent discussion on fedora-advisory-board-list
- Should we consider term limits
- Are there ways to remove the distinction some folks see between those that work at Red Hat and those that do not?
- Response:
- Community vote is an open process
- Number of FAS accounts does not necessarily reflect number of contributors
- How should low turn out be interpreted?
- People didn't know?
- People are happy with how things are and do not see a need to change them?
- Other possibilities include apathy or difficulties with the process
- Could we do an analysis of voter turnout based on FAS group?
- Groups where total membership is less than 10 people, exclude group from analysis
- Interested in identifying groups where we might be seen as irrelevant and can do a better job of engaging.
- Whatever we do will be published
- Could community members qualifying to vote be reminded via email?
- reminding them to vote at the beginning
- send a reminder at the end to people who have not voted
- Term limits are a good idea. Let the community help craft what they think the right policy should be on fedora-advisory-board@redhat.com list.
- ACTIONS:
- file ticket with infrastructure requesting a mail delivery mechanism added to FAS
- keep it generic so that other groups can use it--not just limited to voting
- https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/675
- circulate ideas and foster discussion on fedora-advisory-board@redhat.com list about term limits and guidelines around them
- OWNER: Seth Vidal
- set a time limit for feedback
- return feedback to the board for discussion on: 2008-08-05
RESOLUTION:
- There did not appear to be any consensus on fedora-advisory-board list related to term limits
- Paul Frields withdraws written proposal related to term limits
- Board will consider future proposals if someone writes one up and puts it forward
- No future action at this time
Privacy Policy (2008-07-29)
- Tom's draft has been at
TomCallaway/PrivacyPolicyDraft for two weeks and comments have been handled
- We cannot guarantee FAS submitted email addresses' privacy because an outside (non-@fp.o) email address must be used for Bugzilla
- No retention clauses exist in the draft, people should be able to request a purge if they leave
- Voting application could be further refined to disconnect voting data
from accounts
- Board to reconsider policy for a vote
- ACTION :: Tom - Make change that allows email address to be public
- ACTION :: Tom - Add a retention policy
- ACTION :: Tom - Create Infrastructure ticket with details on
decoupling voting data from account data RESOLUTION (2008-08-05):
- Spot made all proposed changes
- All present board members voted in favor of the new policy
- New privacy policy can take effect immediately and a link to it will be posted on the wiki front page
- Also send announcement to fedora-announce-list
- There is no mechanism to email all group users at this time
- Ticket was filed and could be used for this process: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/675
Package Reviews (2008-07-29)
- Board wants to ensure FESCo is driving interest in package reviews
- Board also wants to ensure it is helping FESCo create an adequate basis for getting that additional contributor help
- Queue is very lengthy, over 800 packages at last count
- This may drive update statistics
RESOLUTION:
- ACTION :: Paul - Request contributor to produce statistics for review queue on a regular basis in Fedora Weekly news
- ACTION :: Karsten - On Docs team, drive priority wiki gardening of the packaging and package review guidelines to make contributor uptake
easier FOLLOWUP (2008-08-05)
- Karsten--in process
- Paul
- Jon Stanley has the ability to create statistics and also goes well with Jason Tibbitts effort to improve process
- hope to get into FWN next week
Task Tracking
- Would the board or community benefit from more detailed tracking of board tasks?
- Could result in more work for board secretary
DECISION: For now it appears the board meeting summaries are sufficient.
Next Meeting
- irc.freenode.net
- Join #fedora-board-meeting to see the Board's conversation
- Join #fedora-board-public to discuss topics and post questions
- Announcement has been sent to fedora-advisory-board list
- Greg Dk to moderate