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Fedora Project Board Meeting :: Tuesday 2008-08-05

Roll Call

  • Attendees: John Poelstra, Chris Tyler, Spot Callaway, Paul Frields, Matt Domsch, Harald Hoyer, Jesse Keating, Karsten Wade, Seth Vidal
  • Regrets: Bill Nottingham, Jef Spaleta

Codecs (2008-05-13)

  • Need to restart discussion on fedora-advisory-board redhat com to get plans in place at the start of F10
  • Chris Aillon to make contact with Bastien Nocera to find out what current plans are
  • Waiting on bug 438225 to proceed
    • this change will enable auto-provide for codec information
    • For Fedora 10 removing Codeina and using the distribution's built-in mechanism to install packages (if 438255) is implemented
    • For Fluendo to continue to provide codecs to Fedora they will need to provide them as packages in a yum repo
    • This errs on the side of more "free-ish" software


  1. ACTION :: Paul - request feature page from developer
  2. FESCo should track bug 438225 since this falls into their mandate

FOLLOWUP (2008-08-05):

  • Feature page still in the works and FESCo is tracking bug 438225

Trademark Guidelines (2008-07-01)

  • Board would like to help guide the process of expanding the use of the Fedora trademark
  • Helpful to brainstorm by thinking of Fedora trademark usage in four ways:
  1. Things the board wants Fedora to be able to do with the trademark
  2. Things the board wants the Fedora community to be able to freely do with trademark
  3. Things the board wants other people to reasonably be expected to be able to do, but ask the Fedora Board first
  4. Things that the board never wants people to use the Fedora trademark for
  • OWNER: Paul Frields
    1. circulate ideas and foster discussion on list
    2. return feedback to the board for discussion on: 2008-08-05
    3. Latest updates: User:Pfrields/NewTrademarkGuidelines (see also discussion tab)

FOLLOWUP (2008-08-05):

  • Board definitely wants a Fedora trademark of some sorts for spins and other uses--derivative works
  • Still unsure on how best to proceed on issues related to:
    1. official spins
    2. unofficial spins
    3. branded USB keys
    4. OEM pre-loads
    5. Fedora business cards
    6. Fedora apparel and conference materials (see section on Non-software goods)
  • Everyone should add uncovered use cases to wiki page (see above) ASAP
  • Paul Frields will be working with Red Hat Legal starting this week to move the process forward

board elections (2008-07-01)

  • Background:
    • Recent discussion on fedora-advisory-board-list
    • Should we consider term limits
    • Are there ways to remove the distinction some folks see between those that work at Red Hat and those that do not?
  • Response:
    • Community vote is an open process
    • Number of FAS accounts does not necessarily reflect number of contributors
    • How should low turn out be interpreted?
      1. People didn't know?
      2. People are happy with how things are and do not see a need to change them?
      3. Other possibilities include apathy or difficulties with the process
    • Could we do an analysis of voter turnout based on FAS group?
      1. Groups where total membership is less than 10 people, exclude group from analysis
      2. Interested in identifying groups where we might be seen as irrelevant and can do a better job of engaging.
      3. Whatever we do will be published
    • Could community members qualifying to vote be reminded via email?
    1. reminding them to vote at the beginning
    2. send a reminder at the end to people who have not voted
    • Term limits are a good idea. Let the community help craft what they think the right policy should be on list.
  1. file ticket with infrastructure requesting a mail delivery mechanism added to FAS
  2. circulate ideas and foster discussion on list about term limits and guidelines around them
    • OWNER: Seth Vidal
    • set a time limit for feedback
    • return feedback to the board for discussion on: 2008-08-05


  • There did not appear to be any consensus on fedora-advisory-board list related to term limits
  • Paul Frields withdraws written proposal related to term limits
  • Board will consider future proposals if someone writes one up and puts it forward
  • No future action at this time

Privacy Policy (2008-07-29)

  • Tom's draft has been at

TomCallaway/PrivacyPolicyDraft for two weeks and comments have been handled

    • We cannot guarantee FAS submitted email addresses' privacy because an outside (non-@fp.o) email address must be used for Bugzilla
    • No retention clauses exist in the draft, people should be able to request a purge if they leave
  • Voting application could be further refined to disconnect voting data

from accounts

  • Board to reconsider policy for a vote
  1. ACTION :: Tom - Make change that allows email address to be public
  2. ACTION :: Tom - Add a retention policy
  3. ACTION :: Tom - Create Infrastructure ticket with details on

decoupling voting data from account data RESOLUTION (2008-08-05):

  • Spot made all proposed changes
  • All present board members voted in favor of the new policy
  • New privacy policy can take effect immediately and a link to it will be posted on the wiki front page
  • Also send announcement to fedora-announce-list

Package Reviews (2008-07-29)

  • Board wants to ensure FESCo is driving interest in package reviews
  • Board also wants to ensure it is helping FESCo create an adequate basis for getting that additional contributor help
    • Queue is very lengthy, over 800 packages at last count
    • This may drive update statistics


  1. ACTION :: Paul - Request contributor to produce statistics for review queue on a regular basis in Fedora Weekly news
  2. ACTION :: Karsten - On Docs team, drive priority wiki gardening of the packaging and package review guidelines to make contributor uptake

easier FOLLOWUP (2008-08-05)

  • Karsten--in process
  • Paul
    • Jon Stanley has the ability to create statistics and also goes well with Jason Tibbitts effort to improve process
    • hope to get into FWN next week

Task Tracking

  • Would the board or community benefit from more detailed tracking of board tasks?
  • Could result in more work for board secretary

DECISION: For now it appears the board meeting summaries are sufficient.

Next Meeting

  • Join #fedora-board-meeting to see the Board's conversation
  • Join #fedora-board-public to discuss topics and post questions
  • Announcement has been sent to fedora-advisory-board list
  • Greg Dk to moderate