Meeting:Board meeting 2008-03-25

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Fedora Project Board Meeting :: Tuesday 2008-03-25

Roll Call

Attendees: Paul Frields, Jef Spaleta, Steve Dickson, Seth Vidal, Karsten Wade, Bill Nottingham, Matt Domsch, Dennis Gilmore, John Poelstra, Chris Aillon

Regrets: Bob McWirther

Followup to Previous Business

fedoraproject.org mail (2008-01-29)

  • Take steps to approach changes that were requested in the past
  • Could we create a better start and search page for Fedora mailing list?
  • ACTION: check back on status in one month
  • OWNER: Dennis Gilmore
  • FOLLOWUP 2008-02-26
  • Dennis has spoken with some people inside RHT IS
  • should have no issues making a fedora branded interface to Red Hats mailman instance and having a @fedoraproject.org alias for fedora lists
  • existing lists will stay where they are
  • could migrate all mailing lists to fedoraproject.org in time time if so desired
  • driving forces here is:

1. making everything run Fedora 1. break ties to RHT IS which does not make Fedora a priority

  • fedoraproject.org email addresses lost four days of email a week ago and RHT did nothing to try and remedy the problem
  • FOLLOWUP on 2008-03-25
  • No update at this time
  • OWNER: Dennis needs to sit down and work things out with Red Hat IS
  • Next followup on 2008-04-29

Post-release updates of custom spins (2008-01-29)

  • Should the board have to approve them?
  • We will hosts as many spins as we have space for
  • Need to determine the hosting requirements and limits
  • How long will spins stay around?
  • http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/RahulSundaram/SpinsProcess
  • ACTION: Jef to review Rahul's proposal and report back to board
  • OWNER: Jef Spaleta
  • FOLLOWUP on 2008-02-12
  • Jef is waiting for feedback from Jeremy Katz on release engineering's perspective
  • Reference: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ReleaseEngineering/Meetings/2008-feb-11
  • People are still not clear on exactly what is required to create an official "Fedora Spin"
  • Need a clear list of guidelines of what a spin owner is responsible for and what they are required to test
  • Hoping a test will come from Jeremy Katz as part of feedback from release engineering
  • We are only talking about spins that use GA packages, thus testing for GA should have given us enough comfort that risk is minimized
  • We only need to be concerned with new combination of packages that a spin would present
  • ACTIONS & OWNERS:
  • Paul Frields--followup with Fedora Release Engineering and QA contingent to discuss testing requirements
  • Jef Spaleta to formulate specific guidelines for review prior to or at next board meeting (dependent on feedback from release engineering)
  • FOLLOWUP on 2008-02-19
  • Crux of issue right now is figuring out exactly what input release engineering is supposed to be giving
  • Jef will have a writeup to the board by next meeting
  • Paul will be at the Red Hat office in Westford, MA next week and can sit down and work out any of the remaining details with Jeremy, Jesse, Will, etc.
  • FOLLOWUP on 2008-02-26
  • releng has created http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JeremyKatz/SpinChecklist
  • Jef has input from Rahul and plans to start writing a draft
  • FOLLOWUP on 2008-03-04
  • Jef posting proposal to fedora-advisory-board-list: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-advisory-board/2008-March/msg00004.html
  • FOLLOWUP on 2008-03-11
  • Jef posting updated proposal to fedora-advisory-board-list today and ongoing discussion will continue on fedora-advisory-board-list:
  • https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-advisory-board/2008-March/msg00074.html
  • GOALS:

1. Solidify rest of the policy this week 1. Board to vote on proposal at next meeting

  • FOLLOWUP on 2008-03-18
  • Jef was unable to attend today--deferred to next meeting.
  • FOLLOWUP on 2008-03-25
  • Remaining issues to resolve before final written proposal:

1. Specifying what space (infrastructure storage) limits are 1. Need a policy decision around locally built spins from official kickstart files from Fedora CVS (which have trademark approval) 1. Need to resolve issue with how/where source RPMS will be provided

New Business

Trademark Licensing

  • Legal preparing an agreement for schwag producers
  • People that want to produce schwag can sign trademark licensing agreement
  • Control remains with Red Hat to review and enforce usage
  • OWNER: Paul Frields
  • ACTIONS:

1. Continuing to meet with Legal to review final draft 1. Work to smooth out issue of licensing trademark with custom spins

Fedora Accounts

  • What are the procedures for disabling questionable Fedora accounts?
  • Continue discussion at next meeting

IRC Meeting Next Time

  • Channels are already setup and ready go
  • Need moderator
  • Administrative process outlined here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Board/IRC
  • OWNER: Paul Frields
  • ACTIONS: Check with Max Spevack to see if he will be the moderator again


Future Business

Next Meeting

  • Date: 2008-04-01
  • Time: 14:00 EDT
  • Location: IRC
  • Public channel to ask questions: #fedora-board-public
  • Moderated channel for board answers: #fedora-board-meetings
  • Board to only join moderated channel so as to focus discussion there