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Roll Call

  • Attending: Tom "spot" Callaway, Mike McGrath, John Poelstra, Paul Frields, Bill Nottingham, Dennis Gilmore, Matt Domsch
  • Regrets: Christopher Aillon, Dimitris Glezos, Josh Boyer

Last meeting


Proposed Agenda

Audience profile refinement

  • Limit to 30 minutes
  • Use gobby to detail more characteristics, as a starting place
    • People voluntarily switching to Linux (in general? or fedora in particular?), not really "my aunt Tessie"
      • Better phrased -- conscious and independent choice to install and use a Linux platform
      • Not being forced into it -- willing to do an installation
      • Family member or friend support available (?)
        • Paul disagrees with above -- We want people to be able to run Fedora without support from a friend/family member (its just a reason why someone might take the jump to linux)
        • Does this mean we can assume an informed choice? Yes
      • Why did this person switch then?
        • stability
        • free of cost, functionality
        • lower risk (viruses, spyware, malware)
        • Family relationship to RHEL/CentOS (familiarity)
        • later:
          • free as in speech is secondary for many people, it's the hook that keeps them after they've already experienced the other beneficial effects
          • care about community later, after they discover the methodology and participation
      • What does this person expect when she installs?
        • Is comfortable with the idea that their whole hard disk may be erased
        • Wants the installation to take as few steps as possible
        • Does not want to be presented with choices that are not understandable
    • People who are not necessarily hackers, but are familiar with computers
      • (Not reached in time limit)
    • People who are likely to fix something that is not working (or at least collaborate or report when it's not working)
      • (Not reached in time limit)
    • People looking to perform one or more of the following tasks:
      • web browsing, email
      • office productivity
      • graphic arts
      • publishing
      • audio listeners
      • simple web services
      • collaboration & communication (IRC, gobby, IM)
        • All facilities that get the user in touch with any of our help venues
      • software development (cross platform, JAVA, not necessarily the development that we do)
  • Board made it partially into the first area, and realizes that this is not a project that can be done alone -- more of a thought exercise
    • Not trying to create propaganda (Why switch?) -- rather to understand the person who we want to target, and create/maintain what they would naturally want to use
  • AGREED: Board will engage with more design folks to find out how we can do this methodically and transparently
  • ACTION: Paul to copy to a wiki page for collaboration with others

FUDCon sessions

  • Suggestion:
    • One session: FUDCon + Board roundtable Q & A (incl. target audience preso if needed)
    • One session: Update discipline intro (hopefully presenting ML ideation, not starting from scratch).
      • Need a proposal to present to the audience for feedback and revision during the session. (Paul is planning to take a first shot at this) (spot made a pseudo-proposal in the old thread-of-doom)
    • Hackfests would take over work on updates, unfrozen Rawhide
    • Election town hall is separate
  • Want:
    • Feedback from community on target audience discussion
    • Community to understand that both the board and FESCo are in favor of a more disciplined approach to updates
      • hopefully a proposal has been drafted in advance that can be clarified or ratified
  • ACTION: Paul to take first shot at proposal, possibly using some or all of Spot's pseudo-proposal from FAB

Next Meeting

  • Public IRC Meeting, 2009-11-05
  • DST time change on Sunday, 2009-11-01 makes next meeting 1700 UTC, or same human time 12:00pm US-Eastern/9:00am US-Pacific
  • ACTION: Paul to send out notifications