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zh CN/Meetings/2008-01-25

策划

议题需要包括

  • 各项工作的总结和安排:文档的撰写,翻译,打包和审核,
  • MIPS Fedora - XinZhen
  • Mozilla (Firefox) 的翻譯 - keimoto

成果

文档

打包

沟通

翻译

美工

网站

过程

第一项内容:MIPS 的事情

目前项目的人员配备情况:

  • lyxmoo 是确实做过 龙芯上的 Fedora 的
  • XinZhen 和 hellwolf 对 MIPS 比较熟悉。
  • YuanYijun 对 MIPS 一窍不通,也不知道这个项目从哪儿开始。对沟通协调比较大胆
  • 杨木,细节未知,可以做技术和文档
  • TomCallaway FESCo 成员,Alpha 维护者。参见
  • 项目临时页面

日志

2008-01-21

#!irc
20:09 <+LoneStar> hers, 你晚上几点睡觉?
20:09 <+LoneStar> 我看看能不能赶得回来
20:10 <+hers> 我觉得是丢掉垃圾的意思
20:10 <+hers> LoneStar~ 你有啥要事啊……
20:10 -!- liuhongdan [n=liuhongd@123.127.231.205]  has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 
20:12 <+LoneStar> 我在酝酿一些深入参与fedora project的计划
20:12 <+LoneStar> 想听听你的意见
20:12 <+hers> o
20:12 <+LoneStar> 请 hellwolf 先代为发表一下吧
20:12 <+LoneStar> 我有点事,不好意思
20:13 -!- nihui [n=nihui@58.34.89.164]  has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 
20:13 <+hers> np
20:15 <+hellwolf> 会谈在深入友好的气氛中热烈的进行着
20:16 < r0bertz|work> ...
20:16 < r0bertz|work> hellwolf, 还没忘阿
20:18 <+hellwolf> 前事不忘,后事之屎
20:19 -!- xijiao [n=xijiao@59.77.243.44]  has joined #fedora-cn
20:19 <+hers> 忘啥记啥了?
20:21 < r0bertz|work> 新闻联播里的词儿

2008-01-23

#!irc
15:26  * LoneStar touch hers
15:26 < eugene-> that's sexual harrassment :)
15:30 <+LoneStar> harassment?
15:31 < DawnFantasy> 侵犯~~
15:31 < eugene-> 性骚扰
15:31 <+LoneStar> violence
15:31 < eugene-> 非礼
15:31 <+LoneStar> impolite
15:46 < Kevin_U2> 。。。
15:50 <+LoneStar> hellwolf, 我打听到个消息,那个为龙芯打了1000多个包 的人,可能是红旗的人
15:51 <+hers> 哦,看来所谓宏图大业是说龙芯
15:51 <+LoneStar> 至少有消息指出红旗正在移植f8到龙芯上
15:51 <+LoneStar> ...
15:51 <+LoneStar> 冒泡前先打声招呼阿
15:51 <+hers> hi, LoneStar 吃了没?
15:51 <+LoneStar> 吃了
15:52 <+hers> 那就好,看来社会比较稳定,每天可以吃三次
15:53 -!- abner [n=abner@fedora/abner]  has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 
15:53 <+LoneStar> 和谐了
15:54 <+LoneStar> hers, 知道 fedora 有个 secondary architecture 的接口吗?
15:54 <+LoneStar> 鼓励大家把fedora移植去别的cpu架构上
15:54 <+LoneStar> 我原本以为redhat会反对这样做
15:54 < r0bertz|work> 还是gentoo好啊,我自己一个都可以维护 loongson port, ;)
15:55 <+LoneStar> 当然,也只是精神层面鼓励,不给任何实质性帮助的
15:55 < r0bertz|work> heihei
15:55 <+LoneStar> fedora的infrastructure可比portage复杂多了
15:55 <+LoneStar> 消耗更多人力
15:55 < eugene-> fedora-cn 有没有Planet呢?
15:55 <+LoneStar> 目前没有吧
15:56 <+LoneStar> 不过gnome-cn有
15:56 < eugene-> 其实,要的话,我可以跑个Planet Fedora-cn
15:56 <+LoneStar> 好阿
15:57 <+LoneStar> hellwolf, 醒来后记得看log
15:57 <+LoneStar> hers, 然?
15:57 < eugene-> 能不能发我个email把你们的博客RSS/ATOM Feeds给我。
15:58 <+hers> planet 么,可以订 feed.feedburner.com/fedora-cn
15:58 < eugene-> 哦
15:58 <+hers> 不过东西比较杂,因为是搜索到的……
15:58 <+hers> LoneStar~ 我不知道 secondary infrastructure 的事
15:59 < eugene-> 要是已经有了planet就算了。1
15:59 <+hers> 前面有个 alpha core,还有个 arm 的,你是说那些吗?
15:59 <+LoneStar> 我就是看了arm的,才觉得这事可行
16:00 <+LoneStar> 我来帮助你了解一下, http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/TomCallaway/SecondaryArchitectures
16:00 <+hers> 然后呢?
16:00 <+LoneStar> 粗看之下,大意是要按他们规定的方式编译,然后定期汇报进展
16:01 <+LoneStar> 还要提供符合他们要求的各种机制,仓库等等
16:01 <+LoneStar> FESCo 是什么?
16:03 <+LoneStar> 我就想评估,要支撑一个 architecture,工作量有多大
16:03 <+LoneStar> 一当然是技术性的,二是事务性的,同他们的沟通,获得他们的认可
16:04 <+LoneStar> 三是资源性的,他们要求提供这个那个,我们得有
16:04 <+hers> FESCo 是技术顾问
16:04 <+LoneStar> 想咨询的就是,我的评估有没有错?
16:05 <+hers> 那你想搞哪个 architecture 了?
16:05 <+LoneStar> mips阿
16:05 <+LoneStar> 看了一下,没有
16:06 <+hers> 在哪儿看?
16:06 <+LoneStar> 搜索标题含architecture
16:06 -!- InitX|F7 [n=initx@222.66.20.176]  has joined #fedora-cn
16:06 <+LoneStar> 搜到arm和s390x
16:06 < InitX|F7> vmstat 出来的值怎么 awk
16:06 < InitX|F7> any body help?
16:07 <+LoneStar> cut?
16:08 <+hers> o 看到了一篇文章 http://ditesh.gathani.org/blog/2007/12/07/fossin-project-day-2-day-2/ 这是比较新的东西呀
16:08 <+hers> Step 1: Form the architecture team
16:08 <+hers> Step 2: Get hardware for the architecture
16:08 <+hers> Step 3: Bootstrap the architecture
16:08 <+hers> Step 4: Set up a Koji buildserver cluster
16:08 <+hers> Step 5: Create a tracker bug in Fedora bugzilla
16:08 <+hers> Step 6: Create a a mailing list
16:08 <+hers> Step 7: Connect the architecture buildserver cluster to the primary cluster
16:08 <+hers> Step 8: Get cvs access for the architecture team, set milestones
16:08 <+hers> LoneStar~ 那你不问 ricky,找我干什么?我又不知道 Infrastructure 的内幕
16:10 <+hers> LoneStar~ 到 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ArchTeam 登记
16:12 <+LoneStar> hers, 问你当然不是要你来动手干活
16:12 <+LoneStar> 而是说你帮我看看这评估是否准确
16:12 <+LoneStar> 开始干之前,有多大工作量,能否达得到,心里总要有个数是吧
16:13 <+hers> 那你的评估在哪儿?
16:13 <+hers> 联系了那个 Tom 没有?
16:13 <+LoneStar> 都没有
16:13 <+LoneStar> 你第一个
16:14 <+LoneStar> 如果你看下来说,这需要20个人力那我就不必联系其他人了
16:14 <+LoneStar> 我的评估都tmd在和hellwolf的聊天记录里
16:14 -!- oceanbooo [n=oceanboo@218.17.1.9]  has quit ["Leaving"] 
16:14 <+LoneStar> 我简要说一下,不铺太开
16:14 <+LoneStar> 我觉得要克服的问题就以上3个
16:16 <+hers> 哦,那把和 hw 的聊天记录发到什么地方呗
16:16 <+hers> LoneStar~ 你能改这个页面不,http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/XinZhen/MIPS
16:25 -!- AutumnCat [n=AutumnCa@59.41.108.142]  has joined #fedora-cn
16:25 <+hers> LoneStar~ 哪儿去了……
16:31 <+LoneStar> 走开了一下。回来了
16:31 <+LoneStar> 继续
16:32 <+hers> 那你先把聊天记录发到那个那个地方,俺们看看……
16:32 <+LoneStar> 首先是技术方面的问题。因为有 r0bertz 等的铺垫,我估计已经不会太多了
16:32 <+LoneStar> sorry,我也没有,我让 hellwolf 复述给你听呢
16:32 <+LoneStar> 现在还是我代劳吧
16:32 <+hers> - -!
16:33 < r0bertz|work> - -
16:33 <+LoneStar> f/arm总共对50个包打了补丁
16:33 <+LoneStar> 我考虑arm跟mips的相似性,觉得应该也是这个数
16:34 <+LoneStar> 我们还有个龙芯问题要考虑,经过一番询问,我得知龙芯specific 的补丁很少
16:34 <+LoneStar> 影响的包只有几个而已
16:34 <+LoneStar> 这是我在技术层面的把握
16:34 <+LoneStar> 其次是事务性的
16:35 <+LoneStar> hellwolf 对进行 mips 的开发很有兴趣,但对加入 fedora 不感冒
16:35 <+LoneStar> 我的理解是这样的,如果不能获得足够关注度,自由项目就无法生存
16:35 <+LoneStar> 所以我得自己来做这块
16:36 <+LoneStar> 那这就是我要咨询你的地方,不知道这水有多深
16:36 <+LoneStar> 第三个是资源。fedora不允许交叉编译,又要求build server cluster 等机制
16:36 <+LoneStar> 还要sandbox啥的
16:37 <+LoneStar> 我手上虽然有不少mips机器,但大多数是嵌入式的
16:37 <+LoneStar> 外加1个盒子,总之是十分的紧张
16:38 <+hers> 那得编译多少东西
16:38 <+LoneStar> 他说 regularly rebuild all
16:38 <+hers> 不允许交叉编译没错,可是 koji 是跑在 xen 上的吧?
16:38 <+LoneStar> 没说多久
16:39 <+LoneStar> 我猜想是要我搭mips上的koji吧?
16:39 <+LoneStar> arm的人搭了arm设备+qemu 的集群
16:39 <+LoneStar> 但 hellwolf 泼冷水说,qemu-mips 没有可用的内核
16:39 <+hers> 这冷水
16:39 <+LoneStar> 总之,要从基础设施搭建起
16:40 <+hers> LoneStar~ 我不知道什么关注度的事
16:40 <+LoneStar> 那就聊你知道的
16:40 <+hers> LoneStar~ 要是需要人,算我一个,虽然我不是个好程序员……
16:41 <+hers> 别的也不知道……
16:41 <+LoneStar> 哦,没事。程序的事拜托 r0bertz 就好了
16:41 <+LoneStar> 跪求补丁总会吧
16:41 < r0bertz|work> ...
16:41 <+hers> 得,看 r0 真有用
16:41 <+LoneStar> 另外网上已经有人完成了f8的mips rpm包的编译
16:41 <+LoneStar> 再加上红旗也在弄
16:42 <+hers> 在哪儿?
16:42 <+LoneStar> 技术层面我觉得已经不担心了
16:42 <+LoneStar> http://www.beways.com/fc4/mipsel/
16:42 <+LoneStar> 等一下,我突然发现没有srpm
16:42 <+LoneStar> 红旗……
16:43 <+LoneStar> 不提了,丢人
16:43 <+hers> 上海毕微信息技术有限公司?你去找那个人问问呗,看能不能用他的成果。好好商量下
16:43 <+hers> 红旗的在哪儿?
16:43 <+LoneStar> 我正在找呢
16:43 <+LoneStar> 居然没人知道
16:43 <+LoneStar> 红旗在linux-ren
16:44 <+LoneStar> 据说有一帮人在鼓捣龙芯
16:44 <+LoneStar> 好了,这就是技术层面的全部资源
16:44 <+LoneStar> 还有我们没想到的吗?
16:45 <+LoneStar> 顺便咨询一下 r0bertz ,知道 N32 和 O32 吗?
16:45 < r0bertz|work> 知道
16:45 <+LoneStar> 哪个好?
16:46 < r0bertz|work> 想省事就o32
16:46 < r0bertz|work> 否则就有的忙了
16:46 < r0bertz|work> 首先要先找本书来好好研究一下n32 spec
16:46 < r0bertz|work> 然后遇到问题再帮忙移植
16:46 < r0bertz|work> 从纯技术角度,n32较好
16:47 < r0bertz|work> 较多的使用了寄存器来传参数
16:47 < r0bertz|work> 但现在使用的不广泛
16:47 <+LoneStar> 那现在各家mips软件厂商用的多的是哪种?
16:47 <+LoneStar> debian?
16:47 < r0bertz|work> o32
16:47 <+LoneStar> OK, 谢谢
16:48 < r0bertz|work> see mips run也推荐o32
16:48 <+LoneStar> 定了。瞧,做决策如此之简单 ^_^
16:48 < r0bertz|work> ...
16:48 <+LoneStar> 我记下来,以后写到wiki上。如果项目能开张的话
16:50 < r0bertz|work> :)
16:50 <+LoneStar> 记到evolution 备忘里
16:50 <+hers> 什么叫 N32/O32... 你直接就记你名下吗,还用得着等
16:50 <+LoneStar> 希望别被吃了
16:51 <+LoneStar> 我?
16:51 <+LoneStar> 我想放到这样的地方: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Architectures/ARM
16:54 <+hers> 要和 Tom 沟通好
16:55 <+LoneStar> 明白了
16:55 <+hers> 记到自己名下就不用那么麻烦…… 而且想不做就不做的……
16:55 <+LoneStar> 我回头email他好了
16:55 <+LoneStar> 还是直接修改人家的wiki?
16:56 <+LoneStar> 细节先不谈,申请的是我等 hw 苏醒后最后确认一次
16:56 <+LoneStar> 不出意外的话今晚办
16:57 <+LoneStar> 下一个议题是事务性工作
16:57 <+LoneStar> hw 对 fedora 不感兴趣,因此这里有点分歧
16:58 <+LoneStar> 我的期望值是,获得 fedora 认可,组织名称出现在官方或者半官方媒介上
16:58 <+hers> 怎么回事,怎么又对 fedora 不感兴趣了……
16:58 <+LoneStar> 我说事务性的东西
16:58 <+hers> LoneStar~ 多沟通。给 Tom 写信
16:59 <+LoneStar> 什么提交月度报告啦,符合标准啦
16:59 <+LoneStar> koji啦buildserver啦
16:59 <+LoneStar> 他感兴趣的是技术
16:59  * hers 在写一份,问问那个 Tom 的想法
16:59 <+LoneStar> 有数
16:59 <+LoneStar> 比如step1, 组建team
17:00 <+LoneStar> 就咱仨能称为 team 不?
17:01 <+LoneStar> 如果项目起来了必然吸引来外国的开发人员,非龙芯的mips用户
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17:02 <+LoneStar> 邮件列表、bugzilla,都有管理工作量。我心里还没数呢
17:02 <+LoneStar> 最后一个是资源,我们得构建一个build farm :)
17:03 <+LoneStar> 真的是没有资源呀
17:03 <+LoneStar> 这个问题最后会退化到技术层面
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17:04 <+LoneStar> hw 甚至有意自己编写 build 系统来交叉地编译包,这样可以使用近乎取之不尽的 x86 计算能力
17:04 <+LoneStar> 但这还不是最困难的,最困难的在于 public internet access
17:04 <+LoneStar> 我把家里的adsl线贡献出来吧
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17:06 <+LoneStar> 对了 hers ,我有50张公司的免费CDR,需要我帮你递送live cd吗?
17:09 <+LoneStar> 我现在没有空进行计算,晚上我要定量分析出需要的资源数目
17:09  * LoneStar hits hellwolf  with a breath taking shovel
17:14 <+hers> LoneStar~ 你现在用哪个邮箱?
17:15 <+LoneStar> ?
17:15 <+LoneStar> 怎么说?
17:15 <+hers> 你哪个邮箱能用……
17:15 <+LoneStar> 用于什么目的?
17:15 <+hers> 收信呗
17:15 <+LoneStar> 哪方面的信?
17:15 <+hers> geekbone 的收不到, aim 的收不到吧?
17:16 <+hers> 废话真多…… lone.2004 这个呢?
17:17 <+hers> LoneStar~ 说话~~
17:17 <+LoneStar> 作为开源社区的一员,请用 xlonestar2000@aim.com 联系
17:17 <+hers> @_@ 真的么,aim 比 gmail 还好?
17:17 <+LoneStar> 如果作为朋友,请用 lone06@126.com 联系我
17:18 <+hers> o
17:18 <+hers> 那你收到邮件了吗?
17:19 <+LoneStar> 对于不认识我的人,请给他 lone@sina.com
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17:19 <+LoneStar> 如果你打算加我邮件列表,请用 xinz.06@gmail.com
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17:21 <+hers> 极端人格分裂
17:24 <+LoneStar> 如果你是女孩,我会给你另一个web-only的邮箱,私下地
17:25 <+hers> 给我先
17:25 <+LoneStar> 没收到
17:25 <+LoneStar> 不给
17:25 <+hers> 垃圾箱呢
17:26 <+LoneStar> 收到了
17:26 <+LoneStar> Callaway 是谁?
17:28 <+hers> Tom Callaway, 就是 secondary architecture 那一页的维护者
17:28 <+hers> 不是和你说要和他多沟通么……
17:28 <+hers> LoneStar~ 上哪儿去体验 MIPS,你给我开远程终端么?
17:29 <+keimoto> LoneStar, secondary architecture 好像有包括 pocketpc?
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17:29 <+hers> LoneStar~ hw 手里有什么器材?
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17:30 <+LoneStar> keimoto, ppc != pocket pc
17:30 < r0bertz|work> ...
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17:30 <+LoneStar> hers, 有 qemu
17:31 <+LoneStar> 我有盒子
17:32 <+hers> 玩不太转……
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17:37 <+LoneStar> 给你ssh
17:37 <+LoneStar> ?
17:40 <+LoneStar> hers,
17:40 <+hers> 好啊好啊
17:40 <+LoneStar> ok
17:40 <+LoneStar> 里面是debian
17:40 <+LoneStar> 我打算chroot出fedora
17:40 <+LoneStar> 当然在此之前要买个大硬盘
17:41 < InitX|F7> PPC= power PC
17:41 < InitX|F7> RISC cpu
17:41 < InitX|F7> hers,  you can find the open free MIPS box @ china unix lab
17:42 -!- r0bertz|work [n=zhangle@gentoo/developer/r0bertz]  has quit ["Leaving"] 
17:42 <+hellwolf> 。。
17:42 -!- bicycledaave [n=user@159.226.71.203]  has joined #fedora-cn
17:42 <+hers> hellwolf~ 醒了?
17:43 <+hers> 收到邮件了?
17:43 <+hellwolf> 我的手指上莫名其妙出现了一道伤口
17:44 -!- hasiy [n=gik@222.131.114.126]  has joined #fedora-cn
17:44 < hasiy> ~.~
17:45 <+hellwolf> LoneStar, hers 会谈成果如何,我来视察了
17:46 <+hers> 什么会谈啊…… 你把聊天记录贴一下
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17:56 < r0bertz|work> 怎么不让gnome自动启动ssh-agent
17:58 <+hers> gdm 的 pam?
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18:11 < r0bertz|work> hers, 我直接startx,它也启动
18:11 < r0bertz|work> 哦,我的错
18:11 < r0bertz|work> 我在 .xinitrc 里指定了
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18:13 < r0bertz|work> 娃哈哈
18:13 < r0bertz|work> 现在我的系统开机之后只需要输入一次ssh密钥密码句,以后任何情况下都不需要了
18:14 <+hellwolf> 娃哈哈
18:14 < r0bertz|work> ~google for keychain
18:14 <+hellwolf> 我从来不输入密钥密码
18:15 < r0bertz|work> hellwolf, 你设定密码了么
18:15 <+hellwolf> gnome有session你加里面不得了
18:15 <+hellwolf> 我不设密码
18:15 < r0bertz|work> hellwolf, 不
18:15 <+hellwolf> 设他干嘛
18:15 < r0bertz|work> 我现在在console也不需要了
18:15 <+hellwolf> 我从不去console
18:15 <+hellwolf> 哈哈
18:15 < r0bertz|work> 我关掉gnome,再开,也不需要了,哈哈
18:16 < r0bertz|work> 你从来不关。。。
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18:16 <+hellwolf>  对头
18:16 <+hellwolf> 永远休眠
18:16 < r0bertz|work> 我从我登录的机器上再登录别的机器,也不需要了
18:16 < r0bertz|work> 哈哈
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18:17 < r0bertz|work> 我logout,再次登录,打开screen,打个fixssh,也不需要拉
18:17 < r0bertz|work> 哈哈
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18:17 < r0bertz|work> 哈哈哈哈哈
18:17 < r0bertz|work> ssh-agent终极解决方案。。。
18:17 < oceanboo> r0bertz|work: 怎么兴奋成这样啦 :)
18:18 <+LoneStar> ...
18:19 <+hellwolf> http://pop.pcpop.com/zpt/default.html?MainUrl=http://pop.pcpop.com/t071227/3738187.html&referrer=http://www.google.com/search?q=%E7%94%B7%E5%8F%8B+%E7%9D%A1%E8%A7%89+%E9%B8%A1%E9%B8%A1&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla::official&client=firefox-a
18:19 <+hellwolf> LoneStar, 什么时候有㎜给你编织一个
18:20 < r0bertz|work> 。。。
18:21 < oceanboo> 。。。。。。。
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18:46 <+LoneStar> hellwolf,
18:46 <+LoneStar> 那我们就宣布成立team吧
18:46 <+LoneStar> 你还有意见不?
18:47 < r0bertz|work> 今天
18:47 <+hellwolf> 没有,越个地方剪彩吧3
18:47 < r0bertz|work> 中华人民共和国
18:47 < r0bertz|work> 中央人民政府
18:47 < r0bertz|work> 成立拉
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19:17 <+LoneStar> hellwolf, http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/XinZhen/MIPS
19:17 <+LoneStar> 我们填满这个页面,就去找 Tom 申请了
19:17 <+LoneStar> 就算是正式开始啦
19:18 <+hellwolf> 哦
19:18 <+hellwolf> 还没剪彩呢
19:18 <+hellwolf> 新闻发布会呢?
19:18 <+hellwolf> 通气会
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19:28 <+LoneStar> 我们这不就在开嘛
19:28 <+LoneStar> 你一定要等人到齐?
19:28 <+LoneStar> 就缺个 hers 了,晚上给你补办了吧
19:28 <+LoneStar> 回家,走人

23:42 <+hers> nice
23:42 <+hers> Lonestar 的机器给开了个 ssh 帐号,竟然可以用 sudo su
23:42 <+hellwolf> revision 1.5
23:42 <+hers> 于是我自己又开了个别的帐号
23:42 <+hellwolf> date: 2006/08/12 03:40:45;  author: hellwolf_misty;  state: dead;  lines: +0 -0
23:42 <+hellwolf> removed
23:43 <+hellwolf> why removed
23:43 <+hers> 还设置了 ssh pubkey 认证
23:43 <+hers> 他也是,太不小心了吧
23:44 < chitycheng> Metadata file does not match checksum
23:44 < chitycheng> ...
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23:56 <+hers> 好人哪……

00:39 <+hers> LoneStar 的盒子跑的是 debian,还是满好用的
00:39 <+hers> 第一个 rpmbuild --rebuild 的是 rpmdevtools


2008-01-24

#!irc
19:05 <+LoneStar> hers_, 你在 fedora wiki 里叫什么名字?
19:07 <+LoneStar> 谁知道?
19:07 <+liuhongdan> 看看贡献者列表就知道了
19:13 <+LoneStar> 哪里有?
19:13 <+liuhongdan> ==
19:14 <+liuhongdan> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/zh_CN/Contributors
19:14 <+liuhongdan> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/zh_CN/ 主页
19:15 <+LoneStar> 谢谢
19:16 <+LoneStar> 他在 fedora 项目中的角色是什么?
19:16 <+hellwolf> 大屎
19:16 <+hellwolf> 大使
19:16 < AutumnCat> .....................
19:17 < jhwhbd> 是肥料还是骗子?
19:17 <+hellwolf> 是希望
19:18 <+LoneStar> A New Hope
19:19 <+liuhongdan> 谁为fedora做过多少事情?
19:19 <+liuhongdan> 自己花钱?
19:24  * hellwolf 偷偷看了 LoneStar 一眼,立刻把头转开
19:24  * LoneStar 瞪着 hellwolf
19:30  * keimoto 吃飽回來看戲.
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19:37 <+LoneStar> 很高兴得知你就是打包者。根据与大家的讨论,我现在确信加入 secondary architecture 是正确的方向。我们已经正式开始这项工作,向 Fedora Project 申请这个 arch,如果获得批准立刻着手开始工作。其他技术问题都等项目开始以后再讨论也不迟,我只想确定一点,那就是你是否有兴趣加入我们这个 team?
19:37 <+LoneStar> 关于 fedora-cn 我做一些简单介绍。像所有国内组织一样,fedora-cn 是个“虚拟”组织,没有自己的形式。我们所有人都在 Fedora Project 注册,属于其中 zh_CN 分会。名单位于 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/zh_CN/Contributors 。其中我们的核心人员是 袁乙钧 / Yuan Yijun,在 Fedora 中担任多个角色,包括 Fedora 大使。其他人都是在他的介绍下加入的 Fedora 并在多个项
19:37 <+LoneStar> 目中担任角色。关于 Yuan Yijun, BBBush, 可见 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/YuanYijun。
19:37 <+LoneStar> 关于我们正在设想的 secondary arch, 信息会逐步添加到 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/XinZhen/MIPS ,不过目前只有一个框架。
19:37 <+LoneStar> 根据 Fedora 的惯例,我们在 freenode 上的 #fedora-cn 频道联络,可使用 xchat/pidgin/ircmonkey 等多种开源软件访问之。期待你的加入。
19:38 <+hellwolf> 袁总舵主
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19:39 < jhwhbd> 祝袁总舵主福如东海,寿与天齐,千秋万载,一统江湖!
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19:47 <+keimoto> 恭喜武林盟主


22:52 <+hers> 说起来 Tom Callaway 还没有回复邮件,怎么办呢 :(
22:54 < hasiy> 那是谁..

23:27 <+LoneStar> hi hers
23:28 <+LoneStar> tom 没有回信
23:28 < hasiy> ...
23:29 < fox> 睡了?
23:29 < hasiy> [22:48]  <hers> 说起来 Tom Callaway 还没有回复邮件,怎么办呢 :(
23:30 <+LoneStar> ...
23:30 <+LoneStar> 直接电话打他家去
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23:38 <+hers> LoneStar~ 明天晚上要去吃饭,没办法参加聚会了,你们聊吧……
23:41 <+LoneStar> 哦,没关系
23:41 <+LoneStar> 我通常聚会时在路上
23:43 <+hellwolf> 我通常在吃中饭
23:44 <+hellwolf> 然后打台球,然后回来看总结
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23:51 <+LoneStar> 你真腐败
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2008-01-25

#!irc

11:24 < lyxmoo> hi lonestar
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11:38 <+LoneStar> hi lyxmoo
11:38 <+LoneStar> 来啦
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11:50 <+LoneStar> hers, 给你介绍一下 lyxmoo
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11:51 <+LoneStar> 他已经完成了f8的mipsel包编译
11:51 <+LoneStar> 打包
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11:51 < Kevin_U2> 哪位朋友php 了解一些
11:52 < Kevin_U2> 请问  对一个 超大数组 作 foreach 循环  内存 不够用 怎么办
11:52 < Kevin_U2> 怎么来清一下?
11:58 < lyxmoo> lonestar: 还有很多没有做完
11:59 <+LoneStar> lyxmoo, 没关系
11:59 <+LoneStar> 我们可以合作
11:59 < desatan_> Kevin_U2: 分块处理
11:59 <+LoneStar> 让它融入Fedora Project
11:59 <+LoneStar> 就会做完的
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16:21 <+hers> ---------------------------
16:21 <+hers> kwrite.exe - Bad Image
16:21 <+hers> ---------------------------
16:21 <+hers> The application or DLL D:\KDE4\bin\libkdeui.dll is not a valid Windows image. Please check this against your installation diskette.
16:21 <+hers> ---------------------------
16:21 <+hers> OK
16:21 <+hers> ---------------------------
16:23 <+abner> kde on windows?
16:23  * abner 還沒時間弄一下…
16:23 <+LoneStar> hi hers
16:23 <+LoneStar> 我的龙芯吗?
16:24 <+LoneStar> 不可能阿,永远开机的
16:24 <+hers> 嗯,我只选择了 kdebase4-bin,不知道为什么跑不成。qt 程序可以跑,kde 程序就会报这个错。安装程序和 cygwin 非常像,自动解决依赖关系,蛮好。
16:24 <+LoneStar> 见鬼,是不通
16:24 <+hers> [yuan@mstar ~] $ ssh -C pub.minidns.net
16:24 <+hers> ssh: connect to host pub.minidns.net port 22: No route to host
16:25 <+hers> 大概我在上面挂了两天一夜的,挂坏了
16:25 <+LoneStar> 只好晚上我回家去弄了
16:25 <+LoneStar> 大概只是断线
16:26 <+hers> 也有可能是有人给你干掉了
16:26 <+hers> 让你不用 key auth 的
16:27 <+LoneStar> ...
16:27 <+LoneStar> 要哭了
16:27 <+LoneStar> 别吓我
16:27 <+LoneStar> 还有很多活要干
16:27 <+LoneStar> lyxmoo来过了
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16:32 <+hers> 看到了
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16:41 <+hers> 什么叫做 Code of Conduct? http://live.gnome.org/CodeOfConduct



现在包含自 dbus.c:26 的文件中:
18:18 < GodMan> /usr/include/dbus-1.0/dbus/dbus.h:30:2: 错误:#error "Please define DBUS_API_SUBJECT_TO_CHANGE to acknowledge your understanding that D-BUS hasn't reached 1.0 and is subject to protocol and API churn. See the README for a full explanation."
18:18 < GodMan> Failed to compile dbus.c!
18:18 < GodMan> make[5] : *** [dbus.o]  错误 1
18:18 < GodMan> make[4] : *** [all]  错误 1
18:18 < GodMan> make[3] : *** [subdirs]  错误 1
18:18 < GodMan> make[2] : *** [all]  错误 1
18:18 < GodMan> make[1] : *** [subdirs]  错误 1
18:18 < GodMan> make: *** [all]  错误 1
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18:37 < GodMan> 各位大侠好!我./configure后make"audacious-1.4.5"时出现下面错误::
18:37 < GodMan> 在包含自 dbus.c:26 的文件中:
18:37 < GodMan> /usr/include/dbus-1.0/dbus/dbus.h:30:2: 错误:#error "Please define DBUS_API_SUBJECT_TO_CHANGE to acknowledge your understanding that D-BUS hasn't reached 1.0 and is subject to protocol and API churn. See the README for a full explanation."
18:37 < GodMan> Failed to compile dbus.c!
18:37 < GodMan> make[5] : *** [dbus.o]  错误 1
18:37 < GodMan> make[4] : *** [all]  错误 1
18:37 < GodMan> make[3] : *** [subdirs]  错误 1
18:37 < GodMan> make[2] : *** [all]  错误 1
18:37 < GodMan> make[1] : *** [subdirs]  错误 1
18:37 < GodMan> make: *** [all]  错误 1
18:39 <+keimoto> .
18:40 < GodMan> SOS
18:40 <+keimoto> GodMan, upgrade your dbus to 1.0
18:40 < GodMan> 我试试
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18:41 <+keimoto> 它說你的DBUS還沒到1。0
18:41 < GodMan> thank you!
18:43 < GodMan> How can I upgrade dbus ? I am cainiao.
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18:53 < jhwhbd> 问一下:adsl拨号用什么?
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19:16 <+keimoto> cainiao?
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19:24 < jhwhbd> 恩。。。我找到了。从来不用啊。每次都是接上路由器。呵呵。
19:25 < GodMan> HELP   !!!!!SOS!!
19:25 < GodMan> 我已经编译安装audacious-1.4.5了,但是在终端输入audacious时,出现下面情况::
19:25 < GodMan> Successfully installed Skins/Refugee/text.png.
19:25 < GodMan> Successfully installed Skins/Refugee/titlebar.png.
19:25 < GodMan> Successfully installed Skins/Refugee/viscolor.txt.
19:25 < GodMan> Successfully installed Skins/Refugee/volume.png.
19:25 < GodMan> [root@localhost audacious-1.4.5] # audacious
19:25 < GodMan> 段错误
19:25 < GodMan> [root@localhost audacious-1.4.5] #
19:28 < GodMan> SOS
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19:46 <+keimoto> segment error?
19:52 < DawnFantasy> 之前我也经常出 segfault
19:52 < DawnFantasy> 改用 amarok,然后过了几天,又好了
19:52 < DawnFantasy> audacious
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20:09 < rockydd> nobody?
20:10 <+keimoto> me
20:11 <+keimoto> f8有1.4.5了,為何還要編
20:20 < GodMan> 我的是FC。
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20:23 < GodMan> 我的是FC6
20:23 < GodMan> 是什么原因会出现段错误呢?
20:34 < rockydd> 各位有参与过 fedora开发的吗?
20:36 <+abner> 沒有啦~
20:36 <+abner> programming skill 很爛…
20:37 <+abner> GodMan, 為什麼不用 f7, f8? fc6 己經不再被支持了
20:39 <+abner> 用舊的 lib compile 新的軟件,有相容性的問題吧…
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20:41 < InitX> hi all
20:41 < InitX> linux下什么虚拟软件好点跑windows
20:41 < jhwhbd> all hi
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20:53 < liuhongdan> TOPIC??
20:53 < rockydd> qemu
20:54 < rockydd> InitX:
20:54 < liuhongdan> 议题需要包括
20:54 < liuhongdan>     *
20:54 < liuhongdan>       继续邀请加入 fedora-cn Google Group 暨邮件列表,帮助申请 fedora 贡献者帐号
20:54 < liuhongdan>     *
20:54 < liuhongdan>       各项工作的总结和安排:文档的撰写,翻译,打包和审核,zh_CN/AskFedora/Latest 等
20:54 < liuhongdan>     *
20:55 < liuhongdan>       MIPS Fedora - LoneStar
20:55 < liuhongdan>     * Mozilla (Firefox) 的翻譯 - keimoto
20:55 < liuhongdan> JJ
20:57 < liuhongdan> Mozilla的,有专人吧?
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20:58 <+liuhongdan> 没事删东西,把gnome games删没了
20:59 < rockydd> 重装啊
21:00 <+liuhongdan> 正在...
21:01 < rockydd> 嘿。。。
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21:04 <+liuhongdan> IPV9
21:04 <+liuhongdan> 真是厉害
21:10 < rockydd> 翻译工作现在还有人在做吗?
21:11 < rockydd> 怎么人气这么差啊
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21:15 <+liuhongdan> 那个方面?
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21:17 < lyxmoo> rockydd: 人心散了,队伍不好带啊
21:17 < rockydd> 呵呵,为什么啊。
21:18 < InitX> lyxmoo: 你也来这里混了?
21:18 < InitX> rockydd: 干嘛?
21:19 < rockydd> InitX: 你不是问用什么虚拟机吗?
21:19 < InitX> 恩
21:19 < InitX> qemu?
21:19 < rockydd> qemu挺好的
21:19 < InitX> 怎么个好伐
21:20 < InitX> 怎么个好法
21:20 < InitX> intrdo一下
21:20 < rockydd> 就是没啥不好 :)
21:20 < InitX> 装windwos方便不?
21:20 < rockydd> 现在的图形界面好象也挺好用的,试过一次,有点儿象vmware
21:20 < InitX> 切换方便不
21:20 < rockydd> 很简单
21:21 < rockydd> 方便啊。
21:21 < rockydd> 你要求高吗?
21:21 < InitX> 我看别人都是 linux box + vwmare
21:21 < InitX> 不高
21:21 < AutumnCat> qemu 卡..
21:21 < rockydd> 那你试试吧,挺好的。
21:21 < InitX> 只要ctrl + alt 能切换到虚拟机下跑个windows就OK
21:21 < rockydd> 我这里用的还行。
21:21 < rockydd> 那完全没问题。
21:22 < InitX> 主要公司打印机不支持linux
21:22 < InitX> 另外还有公司用exchange的
21:22 < InitX> thunderbird 不支持exchange
21:22 < InitX> evolution也是
21:22 < rockydd> 哦,应该够用了。
21:22 < InitX> 我就装个XP或者2000 跑个打印机驱动和outlook
21:23 < rockydd> 唉,是啊。想完全摆脱windows还是挺难的。 :(
21:23 < InitX> 关键现在太多c/s结构
21:23 < InitX> 伪b/s结构也太多
21:23 < rockydd> 机器内存够的话应该没问题。 而且用xen的话应该性能更好,不过,我没有试过。
21:24 < InitX> xen 的kernel比较特殊
21:24 < InitX> 我的知识点里面xen还不能装windows
21:25 < rockydd> 哦?是吗? 我不太懂。
21:25 < InitX> 我也不太懂
21:27 < rockydd> po文件里面怎么查找还没有被翻译的字条串?
21:27 < InitX> is there anybody similar with async SCSI tech
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21:36 <+keimoto> hi
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21:37 < lyxmoo> hi
21:38  * lyxmoo 额确认 xen 不能跑win
21:38 < lyxmoo> 不过virtualbox 貌似可以跑的
21:43 <+liuhongdan> 哦也,gnome-games OK鸟
21:44 <+keimoto> xen的full virt都不行?
21:47 < lyxmoo> full 这个生活似乎可行
21:47  * lyxmoo 匿了
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21:58 < rockydd> 哪位做过翻译工作,几个问题请教一下。
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22:11 < rockydd> yum 什么时候可以支持升级到不同的release?
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