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* [http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test/2010-July/092176.html Proposed meeting agenda] | * [http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test/2010-July/092176.html Proposed meeting agenda] | ||
* [ | * [http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2010-07-19/fedora-qa.2010-07-19-15.00.html MeetBot summary] | ||
== Previous meeting follow-up == | == Previous meeting follow-up == | ||
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:: Finalize [https://fedorahosted.org/pipermail/autoqa-devel/2010-July/000815.html test base class patchset] | :: Finalize [https://fedorahosted.org/pipermail/autoqa-devel/2010-July/000815.html test base class patchset] | ||
:: Finalize [https://fedorahosted.org/pipermail/autoqa-devel/2010-July/000820.html label patchset] | :: Finalize [https://fedorahosted.org/pipermail/autoqa-devel/2010-July/000820.html label patchset] | ||
: Work continues ... | |||
:: vaschenb prepared a helloworld test usable for the newcommers and for us when testing new hooks and stuff | |||
:: kparal started to work on a new control file for tests, that would handle autoqa variables | |||
:: kparal created https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Automate_AutoQA_clients_installation to document installing multiple autoqa virt clients | |||
; Next steps... | ; Next steps... | ||
: Outstanding patchsets | |||
:: Helloworld test (vaschenb) | |||
:: test-specific labels support (kparal) | |||
:: common base class for all autoqa tests (jskladan) | |||
: Continue progress towards depcheck milestones | |||
== Proventester Update == | == Proventester Update == | ||
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: [[Proven_tester]] updated as the result of several proposed wiki drafts | : [[Proven_tester]] updated as the result of several proposed wiki drafts | ||
; Next steps | ; Next steps | ||
: | : Generating critpath+proventester metrics -- see {{ticket|bodhi|456}} | ||
= Open discussion - <Your topic here> = | = Open discussion - <Your topic here> = | ||
== Proventester FAS requests == | |||
; Owner - [[User:Maxamillion]] | |||
; Summary | |||
: Adam Miller asked if we should check on the open FAS ''proventester'' requests in each meeting | |||
; Next steps | |||
: maxamillion to set up a weekly outstanding proventester mentor request check-in | |||
= Upcoming QA events = | = Upcoming QA events = | ||
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= Action items = | = Action items = | ||
# maxamillion to set up a weekly outstanding proventester mentor request checkin | |||
= IRC Transcript = | = IRC Transcript = | ||
{| | |||
|- id="t15:00:10" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | #startmeeting Fedora QA Meeting | |||
|| [[#t15:00:10|15:00]] | |||
|- id="t15:00:10" | |||
! style="background-color: #42427e" | zodbot | |||
| style="color: #42427e" | Meeting started Mon Jul 19 15:00:10 2010 UTC. The chair is jlaska. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | |||
|| [[#t15:00:10|15:00]] | |||
|- id="t15:00:10" | |||
! style="background-color: #42427e" | zodbot | |||
| style="color: #42427e" | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. | |||
|| [[#t15:00:10|15:00]] | |||
|- id="t15:00:15" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | #meetingname fedora-qa | |||
|| [[#t15:00:15|15:00]] | |||
|- id="t15:00:15" | |||
! style="background-color: #42427e" | zodbot | |||
| style="color: #42427e" | The meeting name has been set to 'fedora-qa' | |||
|| [[#t15:00:15|15:00]] | |||
|- id="t15:00:19" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | #topic Gathering in the lobby | |||
|| [[#t15:00:19|15:00]] | |||
|- id="t15:00:37" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | hey gang, I'll wait a few minutes for folks to join | |||
|| [[#t15:00:37|15:00]] | |||
|- id="t15:00:45" | |||
| colspan="2" | * kparal in | |||
|| [[#t15:00:45|15:00]] | |||
|- id="t15:00:56" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #818144" | morning | |||
|| [[#t15:00:56|15:00]] | |||
|- id="t15:01:16" | |||
| colspan="2" | * fenris02 waves | |||
|| [[#t15:01:16|15:01]] | |||
|- id="t15:01:23" | |||
| colspan="2" | * j_dulaney is here and in better shape than last week, or at least he things so. | |||
|| [[#t15:01:23|15:01]] | |||
|- id="t15:01:36" | |||
! style="background-color: #854685" | j_dulaney | |||
| style="color: #854685" | thinks^^ | |||
|| [[#t15:01:36|15:01]] | |||
|- id="t15:01:44" | |||
! style="background-color: #854685" | j_dulaney | |||
| style="color: #854685" | maybe not | |||
|| [[#t15:01:44|15:01]] | |||
|- id="t15:01:59" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #818144" | someone mail j_dulaney the tylenol | |||
|| [[#t15:01:59|15:01]] | |||
|- id="t15:02:30" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | let's get a shipment out stat! | |||
|| [[#t15:02:30|15:02]] | |||
|- id="t15:03:08" | |||
| colspan="2" | * Viking-Ice here | |||
|| [[#t15:03:08|15:03]] | |||
|- id="t15:03:18" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | alright, I think we have everyone. I see maxamillion and vaschenb lurking too | |||
|| [[#t15:03:18|15:03]] | |||
|- id="t15:03:24" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | jskladan and wwoods will be out today | |||
|| [[#t15:03:24|15:03]] | |||
|- id="t15:03:44" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | #topic Previous meeting follow-up | |||
|| [[#t15:03:44|15:03]] | |||
|- id="t15:04:08" | |||
| colspan="2" | * vaschenb in | |||
|| [[#t15:04:08|15:04]] | |||
|- id="t15:04:11" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | I have a proventester follow-up item on the list from last week ... but we can hold that until the main proventester topic | |||
|| [[#t15:04:11|15:04]] | |||
|- id="t15:04:20" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | vaschenb: welcome :D | |||
|| [[#t15:04:20|15:04]] | |||
|- id="t15:04:31" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | adamw: any objections? | |||
|| [[#t15:04:31|15:04]] | |||
|- id="t15:04:47" | |||
! style="background-color: #488888" | vaschenb | |||
| style="color: #488888" | jlaska: thx:-) | |||
|| [[#t15:04:47|15:04]] | |||
|- id="t15:04:49" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #818144" | sure | |||
|| [[#t15:04:49|15:04]] | |||
|- id="t15:05:21" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | so that's it for follow-up from last week ... unless I missed anything? | |||
|| [[#t15:05:21|15:05]] | |||
|- id="t15:06:08" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | alright, diving into the proposed agenda | |||
|| [[#t15:06:08|15:06]] | |||
|- id="t15:06:13" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | #topic Pre-Alpha Rawhide Acceptance Test Plan #2 | |||
|| [[#t15:06:13|15:06]] | |||
|- id="t15:06:46" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | Just a quick heads up ... we had another batch of install images posted last week (thanks clumens and Oxf13) for automated testing | |||
|| [[#t15:06:46|15:06]] | |||
|- id="t15:07:08" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | #info Testing just about completed - results at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_14_Pre-Alpha_Rawhide_Acceptance_Test_2 | |||
|| [[#t15:07:08|15:07]] | |||
|- id="t15:07:31" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | I'll post a summary to the mailing list ... the good news is there seems to be a lack of flames with these images | |||
|| [[#t15:07:31|15:07]] | |||
|- id="t15:07:43" | |||
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | kparal | |||
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | starts to look greenish | |||
|| [[#t15:07:43|15:07]] | |||
|- id="t15:07:55" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | I don't know if that means the big changes haven't landed yet, or something else | |||
|| [[#t15:07:55|15:07]] | |||
|- id="t15:08:10" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #818144" | anaconda team says they haven't changed a lot | |||
|| [[#t15:08:10|15:08]] | |||
|- id="t15:08:19" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #818144" | they were kinda surprised that we'd hit *any* blocker issues | |||
|| [[#t15:08:19|15:08]] | |||
|- id="t15:08:24" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | right, that could be the big factor | |||
|| [[#t15:08:24|15:08]] | |||
|- id="t15:08:47" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | so this milestone isn't intended to be an exhaustive run through the matrix, just a "does it smell" check-point | |||
|| [[#t15:08:47|15:08]] | |||
|- id="t15:08:49" | |||
! style="background-color: #4b904b" | maxamillion | |||
| style="color: #4b904b" | bah! | |||
|| [[#t15:08:49|15:08]] | |||
|- id="t15:08:51" | |||
| colspan="2" | * maxamillion is here | |||
|| [[#t15:08:51|15:08]] | |||
|- id="t15:08:56" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | maxamillion: welcome :) | |||
|| [[#t15:08:56|15:08]] | |||
|- id="t15:09:03" | |||
! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | Viking-Ice | |||
| style="color: #4d4d93" | what about systemd is going in alpha? | |||
|| [[#t15:09:03|15:09]] | |||
|- id="t15:09:24" | |||
! style="background-color: #4b904b" | maxamillion | |||
| style="color: #4b904b" | jlaska: thankies .... not sure how I pulled off being late when I never left my desk | |||
|| [[#t15:09:24|15:09]] | |||
|- id="t15:09:25" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | Viking-Ice: last I checked it's in rawhide, but not enabled by default | |||
|| [[#t15:09:25|15:09]] | |||
|- id="t15:09:42" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | #info jlaska will post test summary to the list in the next day | |||
|| [[#t15:09:42|15:09]] | |||
|- id="t15:10:01" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #818144" | lennart wanted to flip the switch on systemd last week | |||
|| [[#t15:10:01|15:10]] | |||
|- id="t15:10:03" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | #info The 3rd (and final) pre-alpha acceptance test run is scheduled for this Thursday | |||
|| [[#t15:10:03|15:10]] | |||
|- id="t15:10:04" | |||
! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | Viking-Ice | |||
| style="color: #4d4d93" | jlaska: what was what I was wondering about if it would be on by default | |||
|| [[#t15:10:04|15:10]] | |||
|- id="t15:10:12" | |||
! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | Viking-Ice | |||
| style="color: #4d4d93" | in alpha | |||
|| [[#t15:10:12|15:10]] | |||
|- id="t15:10:25" | |||
! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | Viking-Ice | |||
| style="color: #4d4d93" | the sooner the better | |||
|| [[#t15:10:25|15:10]] | |||
|- id="t15:10:28" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | agreed | |||
|| [[#t15:10:28|15:10]] | |||
|- id="t15:10:41" | |||
! style="background-color: #97974f" | fenris02 | |||
| style="color: #97974f" | until systemd has a working policy that allows selinux/enforcing, i would nix it | |||
|| [[#t15:10:41|15:10]] | |||
|- id="t15:10:48" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #818144" | mostly it's held up by a bug which makes it fail to work if selinux is turned on | |||
|| [[#t15:10:48|15:10]] | |||
|- id="t15:10:53" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #818144" | i'd quote the bug number but i can't find it | |||
|| [[#t15:10:53|15:10]] | |||
|- id="t15:10:57" | |||
! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | Viking-Ice | |||
| style="color: #4d4d93" | I thought Dan had fixed that | |||
|| [[#t15:10:57|15:10]] | |||
|- id="t15:10:59" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #818144" | fenris02, do you have it to hand? | |||
|| [[#t15:10:59|15:10]] | |||
|- id="t15:11:14" | |||
! style="background-color: #97974f" | fenris02 | |||
| style="color: #97974f" | adamw, i'm cc'd on it .. moment | |||
|| [[#t15:11:14|15:11]] | |||
|- id="t15:11:18" | |||
! style="background-color: #4b904b" | maxamillion | |||
| style="color: #4b904b" | so ... I am going to play the noob real quick, what's systemd? | |||
|| [[#t15:11:18|15:11]] | |||
|- id="t15:11:19" | |||
! style="background-color: #854685" | j_dulaney | |||
| style="color: #854685" | Viking-Ice: I thought the same thing? | |||
|| [[#t15:11:19|15:11]] | |||
|- id="t15:11:28" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #818144" | maxamillion: new init system, written by lennart | |||
|| [[#t15:11:28|15:11]] | |||
|- id="t15:11:33" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #818144" | it's the pulseaudio of system startup! | |||
|| [[#t15:11:33|15:11]] | |||
|- id="t15:11:36" | |||
! style="background-color: #97974f" | fenris02 | |||
| style="color: #97974f" | bug #614574 | |||
|| [[#t15:11:36|15:11]] | |||
|- id="t15:11:43" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | adamw: don't phrase it like that! :D | |||
|| [[#t15:11:43|15:11]] | |||
|- id="t15:11:46" | |||
! style="background-color: #4b904b" | maxamillion | |||
| style="color: #4b904b" | adamw: wait, its going to replace upstart? | |||
|| [[#t15:11:46|15:11]] | |||
|- id="t15:11:55" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | .bug 614574 | |||
|| [[#t15:11:55|15:11]] | |||
|- id="t15:11:56" | |||
! style="background-color: #42427e" | zodbot | |||
| style="color: #42427e" | jlaska: Bug 614574 tracker : SELinux policy for Systemd - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=614574 | |||
|| [[#t15:11:56|15:11]] | |||
|- id="t15:11:56" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #818144" | it's going to place sysv. | |||
|| [[#t15:11:56|15:11]] | |||
|- id="t15:11:58" | |||
! style="background-color: #97974f" | fenris02 | |||
| style="color: #97974f" | maxamillion, correct. upstart is too unstable | |||
|| [[#t15:11:58|15:11]] | |||
|- id="t15:12:02" | |||
! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | Viking-Ice | |||
| style="color: #4d4d93" | http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=183943 | |||
|| [[#t15:12:02|15:12]] | |||
|- id="t15:12:03" | |||
! style="background-color: #4b904b" | maxamillion | |||
| style="color: #4b904b" | yes!!!!! | |||
|| [[#t15:12:03|15:12]] | |||
|- id="t15:12:07" | |||
! style="background-color: #4b904b" | maxamillion | |||
| style="color: #4b904b" | I freaking hate upstart | |||
|| [[#t15:12:07|15:12]] | |||
|- id="t15:12:07" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | okay ... so next topic ... | |||
|| [[#t15:12:07|15:12]] | |||
|- id="t15:12:11" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #818144" | maxamillion: yeah, it's going to replace it. | |||
|| [[#t15:12:11|15:12]] | |||
|- id="t15:12:11" | |||
! style="background-color: #4b904b" | maxamillion | |||
| style="color: #4b904b" | adamw: rock | |||
|| [[#t15:12:11|15:12]] | |||
|- id="t15:12:17" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | #topic Package update acceptance plan | |||
|| [[#t15:12:17|15:12]] | |||
|- id="t15:12:19" | |||
| colspan="2" | * maxamillion does a little dance | |||
|| [[#t15:12:19|15:12]] | |||
|- id="t15:12:22" | |||
! style="background-color: #97974f" | fenris02 | |||
| style="color: #97974f" | maxamillion, check out the whitepaper on systemd. once it works, it sounds awesome | |||
|| [[#t15:12:22|15:12]] | |||
|- id="t15:12:28" | |||
! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | Viking-Ice | |||
| style="color: #4d4d93" | * Wed Jul 14 2010 Dan Walsh <dwalsh@redhat.com> 3.8.7-2 - Make boot with systemd in enforcing mode | |||
|| [[#t15:12:28|15:12]] | |||
|- id="t15:12:32" | |||
! style="background-color: #4b904b" | maxamillion | |||
| style="color: #4b904b" | fenris02: I will do so shortly | |||
|| [[#t15:12:32|15:12]] | |||
|- id="t15:12:48" | |||
! style="background-color: #854685" | j_dulaney | |||
| style="color: #854685" | systemd is pretty cool; I like the code, too | |||
|| [[#t15:12:48|15:12]] | |||
|- id="t15:13:00" | |||
! style="background-color: #854685" | j_dulaney | |||
| style="color: #854685" | rather elegant, in my opinion | |||
|| [[#t15:13:00|15:13]] | |||
|- id="t15:13:04" | |||
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | kparal | |||
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | guys, the topic changed... :) | |||
|| [[#t15:13:04|15:13]] | |||
|- id="t15:13:10" | |||
! style="background-color: #854685" | j_dulaney | |||
| style="color: #854685" | Oh | |||
|| [[#t15:13:10|15:13]] | |||
|- id="t15:13:13" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | we can talk about systemd in open-discussion if there are any more topics | |||
|| [[#t15:13:13|15:13]] | |||
|- id="t15:13:18" | |||
! style="background-color: #4b904b" | maxamillion | |||
| style="color: #4b904b" | sorry to contribute to derailing the meeting :P | |||
|| [[#t15:13:18|15:13]] | |||
|- id="t15:13:19" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #818144" | we all ignore that jlaska guy and his crazy topic changes | |||
|| [[#t15:13:19|15:13]] | |||
|- id="t15:13:27" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | adamw: cranes | |||
|| [[#t15:13:27|15:13]] | |||
|- id="t15:13:31" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #818144" | =) | |||
|| [[#t15:13:31|15:13]] | |||
|- id="t15:13:42" | |||
! style="background-color: #4b904b" | maxamillion | |||
| style="color: #4b904b" | ok, so ... package update acceptance plan :) | |||
|| [[#t15:13:42|15:13]] | |||
|- id="t15:13:47" | |||
! style="background-color: #4b904b" | maxamillion | |||
| style="color: #4b904b" | go! | |||
|| [[#t15:13:47|15:13]] | |||
|- id="t15:13:49" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | kparal and vaschenb are representing the AutoQA masses today | |||
|| [[#t15:13:49|15:13]] | |||
|- id="t15:14:01" | |||
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | kparal | |||
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | two masses :) | |||
|| [[#t15:14:01|15:14]] | |||
|- id="t15:14:05" | |||
| colspan="2" | * jlaska notes wwoods and jskladan are out enjoying life hopefully | |||
|| [[#t15:14:05|15:14]] | |||
|- id="t15:14:23" | |||
! style="background-color: #854685" | j_dulaney | |||
| style="color: #854685" | to me, this IS life | |||
|| [[#t15:14:23|15:14]] | |||
|- id="t15:14:36" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | so kparal ... any big items to report on ... there's been quite a flury of activity on autoqa-devel@ in the past 2 weeks | |||
|| [[#t15:14:36|15:14]] | |||
|- id="t15:14:48" | |||
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | kparal | |||
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | alright, so let me say a few words about the past week or so | |||
|| [[#t15:14:48|15:14]] | |||
|- id="t15:14:49" | |||
| colspan="2" | * adamw bets wwoods is slumped over a bar somewhere saying 'yum upgrade? let me TELL you about yum upgrades...' | |||
|| [[#t15:14:49|15:14]] | |||
|- id="t15:14:50" | |||
| colspan="2" | * Viking-Ice is so fortunate to not having a life.. | |||
|| [[#t15:14:50|15:14]] | |||
|- id="t15:15:24" | |||
! style="background-color: #4b904b" | maxamillion | |||
| style="color: #4b904b" | adamw: LOL | |||
|| [[#t15:15:24|15:15]] | |||
|- id="t15:15:28" | |||
! style="background-color: #854685" | j_dulaney | |||
| style="color: #854685" | Yeah, I'm still trying to dig through all the emails | |||
|| [[#t15:15:28|15:15]] | |||
|- id="t15:15:36" | |||
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | kparal | |||
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | unfortunatelly our main autoqa architect wwoods is somewhere out there, so our patches are not really submitted to master | |||
|| [[#t15:15:36|15:15]] | |||
|- id="t15:16:01" | |||
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | kparal | |||
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | but vaschenb prepared a helloworld test usable for the newcommers and for us when testing new hooks and stuff | |||
|| [[#t15:16:01|15:16]] | |||
|- id="t15:16:06" | |||
| colspan="2" | * j_dulaney notes that next time he gets sick, he should turn off mail receiving from the mailing lists | |||
|| [[#t15:16:06|15:16]] | |||
|- id="t15:16:15" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | #info vaschenb prepared a helloworld test usable for the newcommers and for us when testing new hooks and stuff | |||
|| [[#t15:16:15|15:16]] | |||
|- id="t15:16:30" | |||
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | kparal | |||
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | he can surely say a few words about it, go, vaschenb :) | |||
|| [[#t15:16:30|15:16]] | |||
|- id="t15:16:34" | |||
| colspan="2" | * maxamillion has to run afk | |||
|| [[#t15:16:34|15:16]] | |||
|- id="t15:16:40" | |||
! style="background-color: #854685" | j_dulaney | |||
| style="color: #854685" | Peace, bro | |||
|| [[#t15:16:40|15:16]] | |||
|- id="t15:17:00" | |||
! style="background-color: #488888" | vaschenb | |||
| style="color: #488888" | kparal: I'm just listener :-) | |||
|| [[#t15:17:00|15:17]] | |||
|- id="t15:17:13" | |||
! style="background-color: #488888" | vaschenb | |||
| style="color: #488888" | kparal: no write access :-D | |||
|| [[#t15:17:13|15:17]] | |||
|- id="t15:17:32" | |||
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | kparal | |||
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | alright, so let's say we now have a slightly modified control file | |||
|| [[#t15:17:32|15:17]] | |||
|- id="t15:17:46" | |||
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | kparal | |||
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | all autoqa variables are in a dictionary now, so it's much easier to get a list of them | |||
|| [[#t15:17:46|15:17]] | |||
|- id="t15:17:58" | |||
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | kparal | |||
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | which will allow us to do multihook tests | |||
|| [[#t15:17:58|15:17]] | |||
|- id="t15:18:05" | |||
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | kparal | |||
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | (maybe with some more tweaks) | |||
|| [[#t15:18:05|15:18]] | |||
|- id="t15:18:16" | |||
! style="background-color: #854685" | j_dulaney | |||
| style="color: #854685" | Is such a list available online? | |||
|| [[#t15:18:16|15:18]] | |||
|- id="t15:18:34" | |||
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | kparal | |||
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | j_dulaney: not really online, but in the documentation of every hook | |||
|| [[#t15:18:34|15:18]] | |||
|- id="t15:18:40" | |||
! style="background-color: #854685" | j_dulaney | |||
| style="color: #854685" | Or, would it be | |||
|| [[#t15:18:40|15:18]] | |||
|- id="t15:18:45" | |||
! style="background-color: #854685" | j_dulaney | |||
| style="color: #854685" | kparal: ah, thanks | |||
|| [[#t15:18:45|15:18]] | |||
|- id="t15:18:46" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | j_dulaney: I believe vaschenb posted a dump of them to autoqa-devel recently? | |||
|| [[#t15:18:46|15:18]] | |||
|- id="t15:19:06" | |||
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | kparal | |||
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | the patches are in autoqa-devel, not yet merged to master | |||
|| [[#t15:19:06|15:19]] | |||
|- id="t15:19:33" | |||
! style="background-color: #854685" | j_dulaney | |||
| style="color: #854685" | jlaska: I'll look for it, I've a million emails built up | |||
|| [[#t15:19:33|15:19]] | |||
|- id="t15:19:54" | |||
! style="background-color: #488888" | vaschenb | |||
| style="color: #488888" | j_dulaney: it's helloworld topic... | |||
|| [[#t15:19:54|15:19]] | |||
|- id="t15:20:10" | |||
! style="background-color: #854685" | j_dulaney | |||
| style="color: #854685" | vaschenb: aye aye | |||
|| [[#t15:20:10|15:20]] | |||
|- id="t15:20:19" | |||
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | kparal | |||
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | and from the my part of the world - I started to work on a new control file for tests, that would handle autoqa variables (not just autotest ones). | |||
|| [[#t15:20:19|15:20]] | |||
|- id="t15:20:31" | |||
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | kparal | |||
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | that means that tests will be able to better control when and how they should run | |||
|| [[#t15:20:31|15:20]] | |||
|- id="t15:20:53" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | this ties into your labels work, right? | |||
|| [[#t15:20:53|15:20]] | |||
|- id="t15:20:54" | |||
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | kparal | |||
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | for example on which architectures, which autotest labels are required for this test to run, or whether this run should run at all | |||
|| [[#t15:20:54|15:20]] | |||
|- id="t15:21:00" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | ah cool | |||
|| [[#t15:21:00|15:21]] | |||
|- id="t15:21:15" | |||
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | kparal | |||
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | for example we don't have to run initscripts test when we don't have initscript testing support for that particular package | |||
|| [[#t15:21:15|15:21]] | |||
|- id="t15:21:23" | |||
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | kparal | |||
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | which saves resources in the end | |||
|| [[#t15:21:23|15:21]] | |||
|- id="t15:21:28" | |||
! style="background-color: #854685" | j_dulaney | |||
| style="color: #854685" | Indeed | |||
|| [[#t15:21:28|15:21]] | |||
|- id="t15:21:32" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | #info kparal started to work on a new control file for tests, that would handle autoqa variables | |||
|| [[#t15:21:32|15:21]] | |||
|- id="t15:21:45" | |||
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | kparal | |||
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | similarly to rpmlint, we don't need it to run on every architecture, just on 'any' single architecture | |||
|| [[#t15:21:45|15:21]] | |||
|- id="t15:22:18" | |||
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | kparal | |||
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | so, that's it I guess. stay tuned :) | |||
|| [[#t15:22:18|15:22]] | |||
|- id="t15:22:36" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | eggsellent, thanks for the updates kparal | |||
|| [[#t15:22:36|15:22]] | |||
|- id="t15:22:49" | |||
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | kparal | |||
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | and I have created https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Automate_AutoQA_clients_installation today | |||
|| [[#t15:22:49|15:22]] | |||
|- id="t15:23:08" | |||
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | kparal | |||
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | if you need to install multiple virtual machines as AutoQA clients, this can save you some time and typing | |||
|| [[#t15:23:08|15:23]] | |||
|- id="t15:23:11" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | sounds like vaschenb's work isn't far from master, wwoods will likely help move that through when he returns | |||
|| [[#t15:23:11|15:23]] | |||
|- id="t15:23:47" | |||
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | kparal | |||
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | jlaska: yea, I'm sure his patches are just one review away from master :) | |||
|| [[#t15:23:47|15:23]] | |||
|- id="t15:23:49" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | #info kparal created https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Automate_AutoQA_clients_installation to document installing multiple autoqa virt clients | |||
|| [[#t15:23:49|15:23]] | |||
|- id="t15:24:10" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | alrighty ... anything else guys? | |||
|| [[#t15:24:10|15:24]] | |||
|- id="t15:24:21" | |||
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | kparal | |||
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | this time it's really all from us I believe | |||
|| [[#t15:24:21|15:24]] | |||
|- id="t15:24:55" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | okay, let's move on to adamw and maxamillion | |||
|| [[#t15:24:55|15:24]] | |||
|- id="t15:25:03" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | #topic Proventester Update | |||
|| [[#t15:25:03|15:25]] | |||
|- id="t15:25:23" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #818144" | well, i dunno that we need to do this every week now | |||
|| [[#t15:25:23|15:25]] | |||
|- id="t15:25:42" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #818144" | i think the hard work for proven testers is pretty much done now, we have the process in place and working | |||
|| [[#t15:25:42|15:25]] | |||
|- id="t15:25:43" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | adamw: cool, I'm fine removing it ... I left it on from last week since we still had open items | |||
|| [[#t15:25:43|15:25]] | |||
|- id="t15:25:50" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #818144" | what's open for update from last week? | |||
|| [[#t15:25:50|15:25]] | |||
|- id="t15:26:12" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | talking to lmacken for guidance on the 2 python scripts he has for generating bodhi metrics | |||
|| [[#t15:26:12|15:26]] | |||
|- id="t15:26:34" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #818144" | okay, yeah, i mailed luke | |||
|| [[#t15:26:34|15:26]] | |||
|- id="t15:26:47" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #818144" | he said he could make metrics stuff happen if we request it, so i opened a ticket | |||
|| [[#t15:26:47|15:26]] | |||
|- id="t15:26:56" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #818144" | https://fedorahosted.org/bodhi/ticket/456 | |||
|| [[#t15:26:56|15:26]] | |||
|- id="t15:27:11" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #818144" | i put the most important metrics i can think of that we'd need in the ticket | |||
|| [[#t15:27:11|15:27]] | |||
|- id="t15:27:14" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #818144" | can anyone think of any others? | |||
|| [[#t15:27:14|15:27]] | |||
|- id="t15:27:22" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | oh nice, /me looks | |||
|| [[#t15:27:22|15:27]] | |||
|- id="t15:27:51" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | adamw: nice ... I like those 2 points you noted in the ticket | |||
|| [[#t15:27:51|15:27]] | |||
|- id="t15:27:57" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | * top proven testers (by feedback left on critpath packages) | |||
|| [[#t15:27:57|15:27]] | |||
|- id="t15:28:00" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | * a list of critpath updates still requiring proventesters feedback (ordered perhaps by how long since they were submitted) | |||
|| [[#t15:28:00|15:28]] | |||
|- id="t15:28:32" | |||
! style="background-color: #854685" | j_dulaney | |||
| style="color: #854685" | Do reverse order, so oldest is first? | |||
|| [[#t15:28:32|15:28]] | |||
|- id="t15:28:42" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #818144" | the top proven tester each week will win free beer!* | |||
|| [[#t15:28:42|15:28]] | |||
|- id="t15:28:44" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #818144" | * - the beer is a lie | |||
|| [[#t15:28:44|15:28]] | |||
|- id="t15:28:47" | |||
! style="background-color: #854685" | j_dulaney | |||
| style="color: #854685" | Or is that what was meant | |||
|| [[#t15:28:47|15:28]] | |||
|- id="t15:28:59" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #818144" | j_dulaney: that's probably what i meant, but it's worth clarifying it, thanks =) | |||
|| [[#t15:28:59|15:28]] | |||
|- id="t15:29:06" | |||
! style="background-color: #854685" | j_dulaney | |||
| style="color: #854685" | adamw: I'm close enough to drive to Raleigh to get beer | |||
|| [[#t15:29:06|15:29]] | |||
|- id="t15:29:55" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #818144" | oh, that's a good idea, since i'm in vancouver. yes, jlaska in Raleigh is DEFINITELY in charge of providing the free beer | |||
|| [[#t15:29:55|15:29]] | |||
|- id="t15:29:58" | |||
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | kparal | |||
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | j_dulaney: you would have to travel much further to get a beer from adamw :) | |||
|| [[#t15:29:58|15:29]] | |||
|- id="t15:30:03" | |||
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | kparal | |||
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | heh | |||
|| [[#t15:30:03|15:30]] | |||
|- id="t15:30:04" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #818144" | direct all free beer-related enquiries to jlaska | |||
|| [[#t15:30:04|15:30]] | |||
|- id="t15:30:12" | |||
! style="background-color: #854685" | j_dulaney | |||
| style="color: #854685" | LOL | |||
|| [[#t15:30:12|15:30]] | |||
|- id="t15:30:24" | |||
| colspan="2" | * maxamillion is back | |||
|| [[#t15:30:24|15:30]] | |||
|- id="t15:30:25" | |||
! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | Viking-Ice | |||
| style="color: #4d4d93" | make sure he only provides imported beer | |||
|| [[#t15:30:25|15:30]] | |||
|- id="t15:30:26" | |||
! style="background-color: #97974f" | fenris02 | |||
| style="color: #97974f" | who handles the free pony? | |||
|| [[#t15:30:26|15:30]] | |||
|- id="t15:30:40" | |||
| colspan="2" | * j_dulaney likes imports | |||
|| [[#t15:30:40|15:30]] | |||
|- id="t15:30:40" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | I've got a fedora-qa ticket open that ties into your metrics thread | |||
|| [[#t15:30:40|15:30]] | |||
|- id="t15:30:47" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #818144" | we'll have absolutely no pony handling in THIS qa group, i tell you | |||
|| [[#t15:30:47|15:30]] | |||
|- id="t15:30:50" | |||
! style="background-color: #854685" | j_dulaney | |||
| style="color: #854685" | although NC's Duck Rabit stout's pretty good | |||
|| [[#t15:30:50|15:30]] | |||
|- id="t15:31:11" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #818144" | jlaska: stop working, we're trying to be silly here! what ticket? | |||
|| [[#t15:31:11|15:31]] | |||
|- id="t15:31:14" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | adamw: anything you want to keep on the list for next week? | |||
|| [[#t15:31:14|15:31]] | |||
|- id="t15:31:17" | |||
! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | Viking-Ice | |||
| style="color: #4d4d93" | I think anything will suffice as long is not beer from the state | |||
|| [[#t15:31:17|15:31]] | |||
|- id="t15:31:37" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #818144" | Viking-Ice: american microbrews are pretty great. it's only the mass market stuff that sucks. of course, in europe you only get the mass market stuff. | |||
|| [[#t15:31:37|15:31]] | |||
|- id="t15:31:52" | |||
! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | Viking-Ice | |||
| style="color: #4d4d93" | yup | |||
|| [[#t15:31:52|15:31]] | |||
|- id="t15:32:21" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | adamw: ticket#93 | |||
|| [[#t15:32:21|15:32]] | |||
|- id="t15:32:30" | |||
! style="background-color: #4b904b" | maxamillion | |||
| style="color: #4b904b" | Franziskaner for everyone! :D | |||
|| [[#t15:32:30|15:32]] | |||
|- id="t15:32:34" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #818144" | jlaska: i don't think there's anything we need to keep as a weekly checkin, we can put the metrics in as a meeting topic in future if we ever need to i guess | |||
|| [[#t15:32:34|15:32]] | |||
|- id="t15:32:55" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | adamw: okay | |||
|| [[#t15:32:55|15:32]] | |||
|- id="t15:32:59" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #818144" | maxamillion: anything you can think of to check in on for proventesters in future meetings? | |||
|| [[#t15:32:59|15:32]] | |||
|- id="t15:33:01" | |||
| colspan="2" | * jlaska notes ... there goes my left-click :( | |||
|| [[#t15:33:01|15:33]] | |||
|- id="t15:33:18" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #818144" | jlaska: same bug we've been talking about on the list? | |||
|| [[#t15:33:18|15:33]] | |||
|- id="t15:33:23" | |||
! style="background-color: #4b904b" | maxamillion | |||
| style="color: #4b904b" | adamw: not that I can think of, I think we're pretty much full swing ... all the action items that I know of have been completed | |||
|| [[#t15:33:23|15:33]] | |||
|- id="t15:33:31" | |||
! style="background-color: #854685" | j_dulaney | |||
| style="color: #854685" | jlaska: redundancy, man, redundancy | |||
|| [[#t15:33:31|15:33]] | |||
|- id="t15:33:31" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | adamw: yeah | |||
|| [[#t15:33:31|15:33]] | |||
|- id="t15:33:40" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | okay, it's open discussion time | |||
|| [[#t15:33:40|15:33]] | |||
|- id="t15:33:46" | |||
| colspan="2" | * jeff_hann here, sorry | |||
|| [[#t15:33:46|15:33]] | |||
|- id="t15:33:50" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | #topic Open discussion - <your topic here> | |||
|| [[#t15:33:50|15:33]] | |||
|- id="t15:33:52" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #818144" | jlaska: try yanking the mouse cord? it hasn't happened to me again yet, i'm curious to see if that helps | |||
|| [[#t15:33:52|15:33]] | |||
|- id="t15:33:54" | |||
! style="background-color: #9b519b" | jeff_hann | |||
| style="color: #9b519b" | just got home from work | |||
|| [[#t15:33:54|15:33]] | |||
|- id="t15:33:59" | |||
! style="background-color: #854685" | j_dulaney | |||
| style="color: #854685" | beer? | |||
|| [[#t15:33:59|15:33]] | |||
|- id="t15:34:07" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | adamw: didn't help :( | |||
|| [[#t15:34:07|15:34]] | |||
|- id="t15:34:21" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #818144" | ooh. interesting bug...wonder what it is | |||
|| [[#t15:34:21|15:34]] | |||
|- id="t15:34:35" | |||
| colspan="2" | * j_dulaney has mouse and tablet, so if one dies, in theory, the other should still work | |||
|| [[#t15:34:35|15:34]] | |||
|- id="t15:34:53" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | #chair kparal | |||
|| [[#t15:34:53|15:34]] | |||
|- id="t15:34:53" | |||
! style="background-color: #42427e" | zodbot | |||
| style="color: #42427e" | Current chairs: jlaska kparal | |||
|| [[#t15:34:53|15:34]] | |||
|- id="t15:35:16" | |||
! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | Viking-Ice | |||
| style="color: #4d4d93" | I say we ditch mouse and touchpads all together and go keyboard only | |||
|| [[#t15:35:16|15:35]] | |||
|- id="t15:35:17" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | kparal: Can you guide us through to the finish line, I'm double booked | |||
|| [[#t15:35:17|15:35]] | |||
|- id="t15:35:23" | |||
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | kparal | |||
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | jlaska: sure | |||
|| [[#t15:35:23|15:35]] | |||
|- id="t15:35:35" | |||
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | kparal | |||
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | it may be very short | |||
|| [[#t15:35:35|15:35]] | |||
|- id="t15:35:42" | |||
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | kparal | |||
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | does anyone have any open floor topic? | |||
|| [[#t15:35:42|15:35]] | |||
|- id="t15:35:51" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #818144" | does anyone have a NON-BEER-RELATED open floor topic? | |||
|| [[#t15:35:51|15:35]] | |||
|- id="t15:35:51" | |||
! style="background-color: #854685" | j_dulaney | |||
| style="color: #854685" | Not I | |||
|| [[#t15:35:51|15:35]] | |||
|- id="t15:35:59" | |||
! style="background-color: #4b904b" | maxamillion | |||
| style="color: #4b904b" | I kinda have one | |||
|| [[#t15:35:59|15:35]] | |||
|- id="t15:36:08" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | kparal: thanks | |||
|| [[#t15:36:08|15:36]] | |||
|- id="t15:36:27" | |||
! style="background-color: #4b904b" | maxamillion | |||
| style="color: #4b904b" | would we want to look into a weekly "this is how many proventester mentor requests are still outstanding, anyone interested?" check-in ? | |||
|| [[#t15:36:27|15:36]] | |||
|- id="t15:36:54" | |||
! style="background-color: #854685" | j_dulaney | |||
| style="color: #854685" | That may be a good thing | |||
|| [[#t15:36:54|15:36]] | |||
|- id="t15:36:55" | |||
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | kparal | |||
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | #topic outstanding proventester mentor requests | |||
|| [[#t15:36:55|15:36]] | |||
|- id="t15:37:16" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #818144" | maybe in the short term, ypu | |||
|| [[#t15:37:16|15:37]] | |||
|- id="t15:37:24" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #818144" | i'd hope we won't really have outstanding requests in the long term | |||
|| [[#t15:37:24|15:37]] | |||
|- id="t15:37:28" | |||
! style="background-color: #854685" | j_dulaney | |||
| style="color: #854685" | It shouldn't take long to run through | |||
|| [[#t15:37:28|15:37]] | |||
|- id="t15:37:37" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #818144" | but seems like a solid idea if we do | |||
|| [[#t15:37:37|15:37]] | |||
|- id="t15:37:44" | |||
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | kparal | |||
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | I think we can have a look at it next week | |||
|| [[#t15:37:44|15:37]] | |||
|- id="t15:37:46" | |||
! style="background-color: #4b904b" | maxamillion | |||
| style="color: #4b904b" | adamw: right | |||
|| [[#t15:37:46|15:37]] | |||
|- id="t15:37:59" | |||
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | kparal | |||
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | but generally we shouldn't have any of them outstanding | |||
|| [[#t15:37:59|15:37]] | |||
|- id="t15:38:17" | |||
! style="background-color: #4b904b" | maxamillion | |||
| style="color: #4b904b" | I'd hope it won't be something that there are many outstanding in the long term but since we're still kinda in the early stages of being live I thought I'd bring it up | |||
|| [[#t15:38:17|15:38]] | |||
|- id="t15:38:36" | |||
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | kparal | |||
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | and now I don't know the tag for marking a follow-up item | |||
|| [[#t15:38:36|15:38]] | |||
|- id="t15:38:56" | |||
! style="background-color: #854685" | j_dulaney | |||
| style="color: #854685" | Of course, the average proven tester doesn't have to be a rocket scientest | |||
|| [[#t15:38:56|15:38]] | |||
|- id="t15:39:27" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #818144" | kparal: #action | |||
|| [[#t15:39:27|15:39]] | |||
|- id="t15:39:51" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #818144" | something like #action maxamillion to set up a weekly outstanding proventester mentor request checkin | |||
|| [[#t15:39:51|15:39]] | |||
|- id="t15:40:08" | |||
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | kparal | |||
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | #action maxamillion to set up a weekly outstanding proventester mentor request checkin | |||
|| [[#t15:40:08|15:40]] | |||
|- id="t15:40:13" | |||
! style="background-color: #4b904b" | maxamillion | |||
| style="color: #4b904b" | :) | |||
|| [[#t15:40:13|15:40]] | |||
|- id="t15:40:24" | |||
! style="background-color: #854685" | j_dulaney | |||
| style="color: #854685" | LOL | |||
|| [[#t15:40:24|15:40]] | |||
|- id="t15:40:30" | |||
! style="background-color: #488888" | vaschenb | |||
| style="color: #488888" | hh | |||
|| [[#t15:40:30|15:40]] | |||
|- id="t15:40:33" | |||
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | kparal | |||
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | alright, anythig else to solve? :) | |||
|| [[#t15:40:33|15:40]] | |||
|- id="t15:40:37" | |||
! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | Viking-Ice | |||
| style="color: #4d4d93" | The selinux policy for systemd in enforcing mode is in place ( selinux-policy-3.8.7-2.fc14 ) thus there should not be anything in the way of allowing systemd to replace upstart in alpha. . .. | |||
|| [[#t15:40:37|15:40]] | |||
|- id="t15:40:52" | |||
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | kparal | |||
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | #topic Open floor | |||
|| [[#t15:40:52|15:40]] | |||
|- id="t15:40:53" | |||
! style="background-color: #97974f" | fenris02 | |||
| style="color: #97974f" | Viking-Ice, you tested it? | |||
|| [[#t15:40:53|15:40]] | |||
|- id="t15:41:25" | |||
| colspan="2" | * j_dulaney thinks that he'll give it a shot | |||
|| [[#t15:41:25|15:41]] | |||
|- id="t15:41:32" | |||
! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | Viking-Ice | |||
| style="color: #4d4d93" | not in enforcing mode | |||
|| [[#t15:41:32|15:41]] | |||
|- id="t15:41:33" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #818144" | Viking-Ice: that's not a qa issue, still. it's a devel issue. once it's in, we can start complaining that it's broken. =) | |||
|| [[#t15:41:33|15:41]] | |||
|- id="t15:41:36" | |||
| colspan="2" | * j_dulaney rather likes systemd | |||
|| [[#t15:41:36|15:41]] | |||
|- id="t15:41:46" | |||
! style="background-color: #97974f" | fenris02 | |||
| style="color: #97974f" | Viking-Ice, last i tried, it failed miserably in enforcing mode. | |||
|| [[#t15:41:46|15:41]] | |||
|- id="t15:42:16" | |||
! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | Viking-Ice | |||
| style="color: #4d4d93" | I've been running systemd from the get go however in disabled mode | |||
|| [[#t15:42:16|15:42]] | |||
|- id="t15:42:17" | |||
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | kparal | |||
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | alright, seems we don't have any other topics to discuss | |||
|| [[#t15:42:17|15:42]] | |||
|- id="t15:42:21" | |||
! style="background-color: #97974f" | fenris02 | |||
| style="color: #97974f" | j_dulaney, the concept is outstanding. it's just not ready yet | |||
|| [[#t15:42:21|15:42]] | |||
|- id="t15:42:44" | |||
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | kparal | |||
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | thanks everyone for joining in | |||
|| [[#t15:42:44|15:42]] | |||
|- id="t15:42:58" | |||
! style="background-color: #4b904b" | maxamillion | |||
| style="color: #4b904b" | happy to have been able to make it back to one of these :) | |||
|| [[#t15:42:58|15:42]] | |||
|- id="t15:43:05" | |||
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | kparal | |||
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | #endmeeting | |||
|| [[#t15:43:05|15:43]] | |||
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Revision as of 19:19, 19 July 2010
Attendees
People present (lines said):
Regrets:
Agenda
Previous meeting follow-up
- adamw to talk with lmacken about generating recurring email reports on proventester
Pre-Alpha Rawhide Acceptance Test Plan #2
- Owner - User:jlaska
- Summary
- Per task#6 on the fedora-qa schedule, a rawhide acceptance test run was scheduled for 2010-07-15.
- See
rel-eng ticket#3872
, images built on Jul 15, 2010. - Next steps ...
- Testing underway, results posted to Test_Results:Fedora_14_Pre-Alpha_Rawhide_Acceptance_Test_2
- Test summary will be sent to test@lists.fedoraproject.org
AutoQA PUATP
- Owner - User:wwoods
- Summary
- In order to accomplish the QA:Package_Update_Acceptance_Test_Plan, wwoods proposed prioritizing the following autoqa milestones
- depcheck
- multi-hook test support
- Finalize test base class patchset
- Finalize label patchset
- Work continues ...
- vaschenb prepared a helloworld test usable for the newcommers and for us when testing new hooks and stuff
- kparal started to work on a new control file for tests, that would handle autoqa variables
- kparal created https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Automate_AutoQA_clients_installation to document installing multiple autoqa virt clients
- Next steps...
- Outstanding patchsets
- Helloworld test (vaschenb)
- test-specific labels support (kparal)
- common base class for all autoqa tests (jskladan)
- Continue progress towards depcheck milestones
Proventester Update
- Owner - User:Maxamillion, User:Adamwill
- Summary
- Adam Miller announced that the proventesters wiki page (QA/JoinProvenTesters) is no longer a draft.
- There are several TRAC requests to join the proventesters group.
- Proven_tester updated as the result of several proposed wiki drafts
- Next steps
- Generating critpath+proventester metrics -- see
bodhi ticket#456
Open discussion - <Your topic here>
Proventester FAS requests
- Owner - User:Maxamillion
- Summary
- Adam Miller asked if we should check on the open FAS proventester requests in each meeting
- Next steps
- maxamillion to set up a weekly outstanding proventester mentor request check-in
Upcoming QA events
- 2010-07-08 - Pre-Alpha Rawhide Acceptance Test Plan #1
- 2010-07-15 - Pre-Alpha Rawhide Acceptance Test Plan #2
- 2010-07-15 - Blocker Meeting (f14alpha) #2
- 2010-07-22 - Pre-Alpha Rawhide Acceptance Test Plan #3
- 2010-07-23 - Alpha Blocker Meeting (f14alpha) #2
- 2010-07-30 - Alpha Blocker Meeting (f14alpha) #3
Action items
- maxamillion to set up a weekly outstanding proventester mentor request checkin
IRC Transcript
jlaska | #startmeeting Fedora QA Meeting | 15:00 |
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zodbot | Meeting started Mon Jul 19 15:00:10 2010 UTC. The chair is jlaska. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
zodbot | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. | 15:00 |
jlaska | #meetingname fedora-qa | 15:00 |
zodbot | The meeting name has been set to 'fedora-qa' | 15:00 |
jlaska | #topic Gathering in the lobby | 15:00 |
jlaska | hey gang, I'll wait a few minutes for folks to join | 15:00 |
* kparal in | 15:00 | |
adamw | morning | 15:00 |
* fenris02 waves | 15:01 | |
* j_dulaney is here and in better shape than last week, or at least he things so. | 15:01 | |
j_dulaney | thinks^^ | 15:01 |
j_dulaney | maybe not | 15:01 |
adamw | someone mail j_dulaney the tylenol | 15:01 |
jlaska | let's get a shipment out stat! | 15:02 |
* Viking-Ice here | 15:03 | |
jlaska | alright, I think we have everyone. I see maxamillion and vaschenb lurking too | 15:03 |
jlaska | jskladan and wwoods will be out today | 15:03 |
jlaska | #topic Previous meeting follow-up | 15:03 |
* vaschenb in | 15:04 | |
jlaska | I have a proventester follow-up item on the list from last week ... but we can hold that until the main proventester topic | 15:04 |
jlaska | vaschenb: welcome :D | 15:04 |
jlaska | adamw: any objections? | 15:04 |
vaschenb | jlaska: thx:-) | 15:04 |
adamw | sure | 15:04 |
jlaska | so that's it for follow-up from last week ... unless I missed anything? | 15:05 |
jlaska | alright, diving into the proposed agenda | 15:06 |
jlaska | #topic Pre-Alpha Rawhide Acceptance Test Plan #2 | 15:06 |
jlaska | Just a quick heads up ... we had another batch of install images posted last week (thanks clumens and Oxf13) for automated testing | 15:06 |
jlaska | #info Testing just about completed - results at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_14_Pre-Alpha_Rawhide_Acceptance_Test_2 | 15:07 |
jlaska | I'll post a summary to the mailing list ... the good news is there seems to be a lack of flames with these images | 15:07 |
kparal | starts to look greenish | 15:07 |
jlaska | I don't know if that means the big changes haven't landed yet, or something else | 15:07 |
adamw | anaconda team says they haven't changed a lot | 15:08 |
adamw | they were kinda surprised that we'd hit *any* blocker issues | 15:08 |
jlaska | right, that could be the big factor | 15:08 |
jlaska | so this milestone isn't intended to be an exhaustive run through the matrix, just a "does it smell" check-point | 15:08 |
maxamillion | bah! | 15:08 |
* maxamillion is here | 15:08 | |
jlaska | maxamillion: welcome :) | 15:08 |
Viking-Ice | what about systemd is going in alpha? | 15:09 |
maxamillion | jlaska: thankies .... not sure how I pulled off being late when I never left my desk | 15:09 |
jlaska | Viking-Ice: last I checked it's in rawhide, but not enabled by default | 15:09 |
jlaska | #info jlaska will post test summary to the list in the next day | 15:09 |
adamw | lennart wanted to flip the switch on systemd last week | 15:10 |
jlaska | #info The 3rd (and final) pre-alpha acceptance test run is scheduled for this Thursday | 15:10 |
Viking-Ice | jlaska: what was what I was wondering about if it would be on by default | 15:10 |
Viking-Ice | in alpha | 15:10 |
Viking-Ice | the sooner the better | 15:10 |
jlaska | agreed | 15:10 |
fenris02 | until systemd has a working policy that allows selinux/enforcing, i would nix it | 15:10 |
adamw | mostly it's held up by a bug which makes it fail to work if selinux is turned on | 15:10 |
adamw | i'd quote the bug number but i can't find it | 15:10 |
Viking-Ice | I thought Dan had fixed that | 15:10 |
adamw | fenris02, do you have it to hand? | 15:10 |
fenris02 | adamw, i'm cc'd on it .. moment | 15:11 |
maxamillion | so ... I am going to play the noob real quick, what's systemd? | 15:11 |
j_dulaney | Viking-Ice: I thought the same thing? | 15:11 |
adamw | maxamillion: new init system, written by lennart | 15:11 |
adamw | it's the pulseaudio of system startup! | 15:11 |
fenris02 | bug #614574 | 15:11 |
jlaska | adamw: don't phrase it like that! :D | 15:11 |
maxamillion | adamw: wait, its going to replace upstart? | 15:11 |
jlaska | .bug 614574 | 15:11 |
zodbot | jlaska: Bug 614574 tracker : SELinux policy for Systemd - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=614574 | 15:11 |
adamw | it's going to place sysv. | 15:11 |
fenris02 | maxamillion, correct. upstart is too unstable | 15:11 |
Viking-Ice | http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=183943 | 15:12 |
maxamillion | yes!!!!! | 15:12 |
maxamillion | I freaking hate upstart | 15:12 |
jlaska | okay ... so next topic ... | 15:12 |
adamw | maxamillion: yeah, it's going to replace it. | 15:12 |
maxamillion | adamw: rock | 15:12 |
jlaska | #topic Package update acceptance plan | 15:12 |
* maxamillion does a little dance | 15:12 | |
fenris02 | maxamillion, check out the whitepaper on systemd. once it works, it sounds awesome | 15:12 |
Viking-Ice | * Wed Jul 14 2010 Dan Walsh <dwalsh@redhat.com> 3.8.7-2 - Make boot with systemd in enforcing mode | 15:12 |
maxamillion | fenris02: I will do so shortly | 15:12 |
j_dulaney | systemd is pretty cool; I like the code, too | 15:12 |
j_dulaney | rather elegant, in my opinion | 15:13 |
kparal | guys, the topic changed... :) | 15:13 |
j_dulaney | Oh | 15:13 |
jlaska | we can talk about systemd in open-discussion if there are any more topics | 15:13 |
maxamillion | sorry to contribute to derailing the meeting :P | 15:13 |
adamw | we all ignore that jlaska guy and his crazy topic changes | 15:13 |
jlaska | adamw: cranes | 15:13 |
adamw | =) | 15:13 |
maxamillion | ok, so ... package update acceptance plan :) | 15:13 |
maxamillion | go! | 15:13 |
jlaska | kparal and vaschenb are representing the AutoQA masses today | 15:13 |
kparal | two masses :) | 15:14 |
* jlaska notes wwoods and jskladan are out enjoying life hopefully | 15:14 | |
j_dulaney | to me, this IS life | 15:14 |
jlaska | so kparal ... any big items to report on ... there's been quite a flury of activity on autoqa-devel@ in the past 2 weeks | 15:14 |
kparal | alright, so let me say a few words about the past week or so | 15:14 |
* adamw bets wwoods is slumped over a bar somewhere saying 'yum upgrade? let me TELL you about yum upgrades...' | 15:14 | |
* Viking-Ice is so fortunate to not having a life.. | 15:14 | |
maxamillion | adamw: LOL | 15:15 |
j_dulaney | Yeah, I'm still trying to dig through all the emails | 15:15 |
kparal | unfortunatelly our main autoqa architect wwoods is somewhere out there, so our patches are not really submitted to master | 15:15 |
kparal | but vaschenb prepared a helloworld test usable for the newcommers and for us when testing new hooks and stuff | 15:16 |
* j_dulaney notes that next time he gets sick, he should turn off mail receiving from the mailing lists | 15:16 | |
jlaska | #info vaschenb prepared a helloworld test usable for the newcommers and for us when testing new hooks and stuff | 15:16 |
kparal | he can surely say a few words about it, go, vaschenb :) | 15:16 |
* maxamillion has to run afk | 15:16 | |
j_dulaney | Peace, bro | 15:16 |
vaschenb | kparal: I'm just listener :-) | 15:17 |
vaschenb | kparal: no write access :-D | 15:17 |
kparal | alright, so let's say we now have a slightly modified control file | 15:17 |
kparal | all autoqa variables are in a dictionary now, so it's much easier to get a list of them | 15:17 |
kparal | which will allow us to do multihook tests | 15:17 |
kparal | (maybe with some more tweaks) | 15:18 |
j_dulaney | Is such a list available online? | 15:18 |
kparal | j_dulaney: not really online, but in the documentation of every hook | 15:18 |
j_dulaney | Or, would it be | 15:18 |
j_dulaney | kparal: ah, thanks | 15:18 |
jlaska | j_dulaney: I believe vaschenb posted a dump of them to autoqa-devel recently? | 15:18 |
kparal | the patches are in autoqa-devel, not yet merged to master | 15:19 |
j_dulaney | jlaska: I'll look for it, I've a million emails built up | 15:19 |
vaschenb | j_dulaney: it's helloworld topic... | 15:19 |
j_dulaney | vaschenb: aye aye | 15:20 |
kparal | and from the my part of the world - I started to work on a new control file for tests, that would handle autoqa variables (not just autotest ones). | 15:20 |
kparal | that means that tests will be able to better control when and how they should run | 15:20 |
jlaska | this ties into your labels work, right? | 15:20 |
kparal | for example on which architectures, which autotest labels are required for this test to run, or whether this run should run at all | 15:20 |
jlaska | ah cool | 15:21 |
kparal | for example we don't have to run initscripts test when we don't have initscript testing support for that particular package | 15:21 |
kparal | which saves resources in the end | 15:21 |
j_dulaney | Indeed | 15:21 |
jlaska | #info kparal started to work on a new control file for tests, that would handle autoqa variables | 15:21 |
kparal | similarly to rpmlint, we don't need it to run on every architecture, just on 'any' single architecture | 15:21 |
kparal | so, that's it I guess. stay tuned :) | 15:22 |
jlaska | eggsellent, thanks for the updates kparal | 15:22 |
kparal | and I have created https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Automate_AutoQA_clients_installation today | 15:22 |
kparal | if you need to install multiple virtual machines as AutoQA clients, this can save you some time and typing | 15:23 |
jlaska | sounds like vaschenb's work isn't far from master, wwoods will likely help move that through when he returns | 15:23 |
kparal | jlaska: yea, I'm sure his patches are just one review away from master :) | 15:23 |
jlaska | #info kparal created https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Automate_AutoQA_clients_installation to document installing multiple autoqa virt clients | 15:23 |
jlaska | alrighty ... anything else guys? | 15:24 |
kparal | this time it's really all from us I believe | 15:24 |
jlaska | okay, let's move on to adamw and maxamillion | 15:24 |
jlaska | #topic Proventester Update | 15:25 |
adamw | well, i dunno that we need to do this every week now | 15:25 |
adamw | i think the hard work for proven testers is pretty much done now, we have the process in place and working | 15:25 |
jlaska | adamw: cool, I'm fine removing it ... I left it on from last week since we still had open items | 15:25 |
adamw | what's open for update from last week? | 15:25 |
jlaska | talking to lmacken for guidance on the 2 python scripts he has for generating bodhi metrics | 15:26 |
adamw | okay, yeah, i mailed luke | 15:26 |
adamw | he said he could make metrics stuff happen if we request it, so i opened a ticket | 15:26 |
adamw | https://fedorahosted.org/bodhi/ticket/456 | 15:26 |
adamw | i put the most important metrics i can think of that we'd need in the ticket | 15:27 |
adamw | can anyone think of any others? | 15:27 |
jlaska | oh nice, /me looks | 15:27 |
jlaska | adamw: nice ... I like those 2 points you noted in the ticket | 15:27 |
jlaska | * top proven testers (by feedback left on critpath packages) | 15:27 |
jlaska | * a list of critpath updates still requiring proventesters feedback (ordered perhaps by how long since they were submitted) | 15:28 |
j_dulaney | Do reverse order, so oldest is first? | 15:28 |
adamw | the top proven tester each week will win free beer!* | 15:28 |
adamw | * - the beer is a lie | 15:28 |
j_dulaney | Or is that what was meant | 15:28 |
adamw | j_dulaney: that's probably what i meant, but it's worth clarifying it, thanks =) | 15:28 |
j_dulaney | adamw: I'm close enough to drive to Raleigh to get beer | 15:29 |
adamw | oh, that's a good idea, since i'm in vancouver. yes, jlaska in Raleigh is DEFINITELY in charge of providing the free beer | 15:29 |
kparal | j_dulaney: you would have to travel much further to get a beer from adamw :) | 15:29 |
kparal | heh | 15:30 |
adamw | direct all free beer-related enquiries to jlaska | 15:30 |
j_dulaney | LOL | 15:30 |
* maxamillion is back | 15:30 | |
Viking-Ice | make sure he only provides imported beer | 15:30 |
fenris02 | who handles the free pony? | 15:30 |
* j_dulaney likes imports | 15:30 | |
jlaska | I've got a fedora-qa ticket open that ties into your metrics thread | 15:30 |
adamw | we'll have absolutely no pony handling in THIS qa group, i tell you | 15:30 |
j_dulaney | although NC's Duck Rabit stout's pretty good | 15:30 |
adamw | jlaska: stop working, we're trying to be silly here! what ticket? | 15:31 |
jlaska | adamw: anything you want to keep on the list for next week? | 15:31 |
Viking-Ice | I think anything will suffice as long is not beer from the state | 15:31 |
adamw | Viking-Ice: american microbrews are pretty great. it's only the mass market stuff that sucks. of course, in europe you only get the mass market stuff. | 15:31 |
Viking-Ice | yup | 15:31 |
jlaska | adamw: ticket#93 | 15:32 |
maxamillion | Franziskaner for everyone! :D | 15:32 |
adamw | jlaska: i don't think there's anything we need to keep as a weekly checkin, we can put the metrics in as a meeting topic in future if we ever need to i guess | 15:32 |
jlaska | adamw: okay | 15:32 |
adamw | maxamillion: anything you can think of to check in on for proventesters in future meetings? | 15:32 |
* jlaska notes ... there goes my left-click :( | 15:33 | |
adamw | jlaska: same bug we've been talking about on the list? | 15:33 |
maxamillion | adamw: not that I can think of, I think we're pretty much full swing ... all the action items that I know of have been completed | 15:33 |
j_dulaney | jlaska: redundancy, man, redundancy | 15:33 |
jlaska | adamw: yeah | 15:33 |
jlaska | okay, it's open discussion time | 15:33 |
* jeff_hann here, sorry | 15:33 | |
jlaska | #topic Open discussion - <your topic here> | 15:33 |
adamw | jlaska: try yanking the mouse cord? it hasn't happened to me again yet, i'm curious to see if that helps | 15:33 |
jeff_hann | just got home from work | 15:33 |
j_dulaney | beer? | 15:33 |
jlaska | adamw: didn't help :( | 15:34 |
adamw | ooh. interesting bug...wonder what it is | 15:34 |
* j_dulaney has mouse and tablet, so if one dies, in theory, the other should still work | 15:34 | |
jlaska | #chair kparal | 15:34 |
zodbot | Current chairs: jlaska kparal | 15:34 |
Viking-Ice | I say we ditch mouse and touchpads all together and go keyboard only | 15:35 |
jlaska | kparal: Can you guide us through to the finish line, I'm double booked | 15:35 |
kparal | jlaska: sure | 15:35 |
kparal | it may be very short | 15:35 |
kparal | does anyone have any open floor topic? | 15:35 |
adamw | does anyone have a NON-BEER-RELATED open floor topic? | 15:35 |
j_dulaney | Not I | 15:35 |
maxamillion | I kinda have one | 15:35 |
jlaska | kparal: thanks | 15:36 |
maxamillion | would we want to look into a weekly "this is how many proventester mentor requests are still outstanding, anyone interested?" check-in ? | 15:36 |
j_dulaney | That may be a good thing | 15:36 |
kparal | #topic outstanding proventester mentor requests | 15:36 |
adamw | maybe in the short term, ypu | 15:37 |
adamw | i'd hope we won't really have outstanding requests in the long term | 15:37 |
j_dulaney | It shouldn't take long to run through | 15:37 |
adamw | but seems like a solid idea if we do | 15:37 |
kparal | I think we can have a look at it next week | 15:37 |
maxamillion | adamw: right | 15:37 |
kparal | but generally we shouldn't have any of them outstanding | 15:37 |
maxamillion | I'd hope it won't be something that there are many outstanding in the long term but since we're still kinda in the early stages of being live I thought I'd bring it up | 15:38 |
kparal | and now I don't know the tag for marking a follow-up item | 15:38 |
j_dulaney | Of course, the average proven tester doesn't have to be a rocket scientest | 15:38 |
adamw | kparal: #action | 15:39 |
adamw | something like #action maxamillion to set up a weekly outstanding proventester mentor request checkin | 15:39 |
kparal | #action maxamillion to set up a weekly outstanding proventester mentor request checkin | 15:40 |
maxamillion | :) | 15:40 |
j_dulaney | LOL | 15:40 |
vaschenb | hh | 15:40 |
kparal | alright, anythig else to solve? :) | 15:40 |
Viking-Ice | The selinux policy for systemd in enforcing mode is in place ( selinux-policy-3.8.7-2.fc14 ) thus there should not be anything in the way of allowing systemd to replace upstart in alpha. . .. | 15:40 |
kparal | #topic Open floor | 15:40 |
fenris02 | Viking-Ice, you tested it? | 15:40 |
* j_dulaney thinks that he'll give it a shot | 15:41 | |
Viking-Ice | not in enforcing mode | 15:41 |
adamw | Viking-Ice: that's not a qa issue, still. it's a devel issue. once it's in, we can start complaining that it's broken. =) | 15:41 |
* j_dulaney rather likes systemd | 15:41 | |
fenris02 | Viking-Ice, last i tried, it failed miserably in enforcing mode. | 15:41 |
Viking-Ice | I've been running systemd from the get go however in disabled mode | 15:42 |
kparal | alright, seems we don't have any other topics to discuss | 15:42 |
fenris02 | j_dulaney, the concept is outstanding. it's just not ready yet | 15:42 |
kparal | thanks everyone for joining in | 15:42 |
maxamillion | happy to have been able to make it back to one of these :) | 15:42 |
kparal | #endmeeting | 15:43 |
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