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== Fedora 19 Alpha status == | == Fedora 19 Alpha status == | ||
* | * [[rhbug:929403|Bugzilla: #929403]] and [[rhbug:928279|Bugzilla: #928279]] are known to be 'outstanding' blockers | ||
* dgilmore was out on the day of the meeting, may not be able to get next compose until tomorrow | |||
* | * karma needed for [https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-5141/systemd-201-1.fc19,initial-setup-0.3.4-3.fc19 initial-setup-0.3.4-3.fc19] and [https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-5027/libreport-2.1.3-2.fc19 libreport-2.1.3-2.fc19] | ||
* go/no-go was scheduled for Thursday at 17:00 UTC | |||
== Test Days == | == Test Days == | ||
* [[Test_Day:2013-04-02_OpenStack|OpenStack Test Day]] | * [[Test_Day:2013-04-02_OpenStack|OpenStack Test Day]] and [[Test_Day:2013-04-04_Printing|Printing Test Day]] both went ahead as planned without known problems | ||
* [[Test_Day:2013-04-11_Translation_(l10n)]] looks to be pretty much ready, we need to send out some announcements; kparal is preparing live images | |||
* [[Test_Day:2013-04-11_Translation_(l10n)]] | |||
== Open floor == | == Open floor == | ||
N/A | |||
== Action items == | == Action items == | ||
N/A | |||
== IRC Log == | == IRC Log == | ||
{| | |||
|- id="t15:01:29" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | #startmeeting Fedora QA meeting | |||
|| [[#t15:01:29|15:01]] | |||
|- id="t15:01:29" | |||
! style="background-color: #42427e" | zodbot | |||
| style="color: #42427e" | Meeting started Mon Apr 8 15:01:29 2013 UTC. The chair is adamw. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | |||
|| [[#t15:01:29|15:01]] | |||
|- id="t15:01:29" | |||
! style="background-color: #42427e" | zodbot | |||
| style="color: #42427e" | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. | |||
|| [[#t15:01:29|15:01]] | |||
|- id="t15:01:33" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | #meetingname fedora-qa | |||
|| [[#t15:01:33|15:01]] | |||
|- id="t15:01:33" | |||
! style="background-color: #42427e" | zodbot | |||
| style="color: #42427e" | The meeting name has been set to 'fedora-qa' | |||
|| [[#t15:01:33|15:01]] | |||
|- id="t15:01:40" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | #topic roll call | |||
|| [[#t15:01:40|15:01]] | |||
|- id="t15:01:42" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | morning folks | |||
|| [[#t15:01:42|15:01]] | |||
|- id="t15:01:47" | |||
| colspan="2" | * nirik is lurking. | |||
|| [[#t15:01:47|15:01]] | |||
|- id="t15:01:49" | |||
| colspan="2" | * satellit listening | |||
|| [[#t15:01:49|15:01]] | |||
|- id="t15:01:52" | |||
| colspan="2" | * kparal cheers | |||
|| [[#t15:01:52|15:01]] | |||
|- id="t15:01:54" | |||
| colspan="2" | * mkrizek is here | |||
|| [[#t15:01:54|15:01]] | |||
|- id="t15:02:14" | |||
| colspan="2" | * brunowolff is here | |||
|| [[#t15:02:14|15:02]] | |||
|- id="t15:02:20" | |||
| colspan="2" | * jskladan tips his hat | |||
|| [[#t15:02:20|15:02]] | |||
|- id="t15:03:02" | |||
| colspan="2" | * j_dulaney sets down the banjo | |||
|| [[#t15:03:02|15:03]] | |||
|- id="t15:03:11" | |||
| colspan="2" | * tflink is present | |||
|| [[#t15:03:11|15:03]] | |||
|- id="t15:03:21" | |||
| colspan="2" | * jreznik is here | |||
|| [[#t15:03:21|15:03]] | |||
|- id="t15:03:24" | |||
| colspan="2" | * pschindl is here | |||
|| [[#t15:03:24|15:03]] | |||
|- id="t15:03:28" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | jreznik | |||
| style="color: #818144" | morning adamw! | |||
|| [[#t15:03:28|15:03]] | |||
|- id="t15:03:38" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | wow, guess i can't sleep through this one huh | |||
|| [[#t15:03:38|15:03]] | |||
|- id="t15:04:36" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | #topic Fedora 19 Alpha status | |||
|| [[#t15:04:36|15:04]] | |||
|- id="t15:05:00" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | so, everybody touch wood, but we're actually looking pretty good | |||
|| [[#t15:05:00|15:05]] | |||
|- id="t15:05:09" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | #info current blocker list: http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/milestone/19/alpha/buglist | |||
|| [[#t15:05:09|15:05]] | |||
|- id="t15:05:16" | |||
| colspan="2" | * j_dulaney doesn't have any wood around. | |||
|| [[#t15:05:16|15:05]] | |||
|- id="t15:05:57" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | there's only three proposed blockers (which don't look likely to be accepted) and two possible issues in the accepted blockers | |||
|| [[#t15:05:57|15:05]] | |||
|- id="t15:06:37" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | jreznik | |||
| style="color: #818144" | we were able to figure out initial-setup one in the morning | |||
|| [[#t15:06:37|15:06]] | |||
|- id="t15:07:24" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | right - this is https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=929403 , it was 'fixed' but the fix was incorrect | |||
|| [[#t15:07:24|15:07]] | |||
|- id="t15:07:29" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | we're currently getting the fix corrected | |||
|| [[#t15:07:29|15:07]] | |||
|- id="t15:07:39" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | jreznik | |||
| style="color: #818144" | it has to be verified now | |||
|| [[#t15:07:39|15:07]] | |||
|- id="t15:07:41" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | then there's https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=928279 , it looks like some progress has been made there | |||
|| [[#t15:07:41|15:07]] | |||
|- id="t15:08:25" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | jreznik | |||
| style="color: #818144" | we have at least a clue and also - it was moved from F15 beta blocker to NTH that time and we have several workarounds... | |||
|| [[#t15:08:25|15:08]] | |||
|- id="t15:08:45" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | jreznik | |||
| style="color: #818144" | I'm not sure how to fix properly... the second option should be doable | |||
|| [[#t15:08:45|15:08]] | |||
|- id="t15:09:07" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | yeah, we can re-discuss it at the blocker meeting and see if we want to drop blocker status | |||
|| [[#t15:09:07|15:09]] | |||
|- id="t15:09:26" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | #info 929403 and 928279 are known to be 'outstanding' blockers | |||
|| [[#t15:09:26|15:09]] | |||
|- id="t15:09:52" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | dgilmore is out today unfortunately so we may have to wait till tomorrow for a compose | |||
|| [[#t15:09:52|15:09]] | |||
|- id="t15:10:03" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | #info dgilmore is out today, may not be able to get next compose until tomorrow | |||
|| [[#t15:10:03|15:10]] | |||
|- id="t15:10:39" | |||
| colspan="2" | * jreznik is not sure pbabinca would be able to create compose, could ask (in case we would need it) | |||
|| [[#t15:10:39|15:10]] | |||
|- id="t15:11:04" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | nirik is usually the backup | |||
|| [[#t15:11:04|15:11]] | |||
|- id="t15:11:14" | |||
| colspan="2" | * nirik could try if need be | |||
|| [[#t15:11:14|15:11]] | |||
|- id="t15:11:33" | |||
! style="background-color: #854685" | brunowolff | |||
| style="color: #854685" | It's not good that only one person is trusted (in the knows what to do sense) to do composes. | |||
|| [[#t15:11:33|15:11]] | |||
|- id="t15:11:38" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | jreznik | |||
| style="color: #818144" | adamw: yep I know, the idea is that palo could help us in out timezone too (to make the process faster when needed) | |||
|| [[#t15:11:38|15:11]] | |||
|- id="t15:11:42" | |||
| colspan="2" | * nirik has access and can do them | |||
|| [[#t15:11:42|15:11]] | |||
|- id="t15:11:50" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | ah | |||
|| [[#t15:11:50|15:11]] | |||
|- id="t15:11:59" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | so, looking at test coverage, we're not looking too bad | |||
|| [[#t15:11:59|15:11]] | |||
|- id="t15:12:18" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | we could do with testing some USB installs to bare metal, and UEFI too | |||
|| [[#t15:12:18|15:12]] | |||
|- id="t15:13:12" | |||
| colspan="2" | * j_dulaney will work on the USB | |||
|| [[#t15:13:12|15:13]] | |||
|- id="t15:13:21" | |||
| colspan="2" | * satellit need someone else to try bare metal USB install and confirm what I saw | |||
|| [[#t15:13:21|15:13]] | |||
|- id="t15:13:32" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | yeah, i suspect that'll be just your system' | |||
|| [[#t15:13:32|15:13]] | |||
|- id="t15:13:52" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | well, I had issues with a dd'ed usb stick the only time i tried now i come to think of it, so maybe not. but litd worked okay. | |||
|| [[#t15:13:52|15:13]] | |||
|- id="t15:14:00" | |||
| colspan="2" | * satellit always worked before | |||
|| [[#t15:14:00|15:14]] | |||
|- id="t15:14:34" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | okay | |||
|| [[#t15:14:34|15:14]] | |||
|- id="t15:14:38" | |||
| colspan="2" | * j_dulaney had no problem the last time he tested dd live to USB | |||
|| [[#t15:14:38|15:14]] | |||
|- id="t15:14:48" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | we only need either dd or litd to work at alpha though, so even if dd is busted it's not a disaster. but it'd be good to check | |||
|| [[#t15:14:48|15:14]] | |||
|- id="t15:15:05" | |||
| colspan="2" | * j_dulaney is dding even now | |||
|| [[#t15:15:05|15:15]] | |||
|- id="t15:15:32" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | it doesn't look like we need karma for any of the testing fixes except https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/initial-setup-0.3.4-3.fc19 (which should probably go along with a systemd build) and https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/libreport-2.1.3-2.fc19 (we're waiting for a compose to test that one) | |||
|| [[#t15:15:32|15:15]] | |||
|- id="t15:15:45" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | i suppose we really should get a compose done with libreport in it to make sure that fix works... | |||
|| [[#t15:15:45|15:15]] | |||
|- id="t15:15:57" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | #info karma needed for https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/initial-setup-0.3.4-3.fc19 and https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/libreport-2.1.3-2.fc19 | |||
|| [[#t15:15:57|15:15]] | |||
|- id="t15:16:13" | |||
| colspan="2" | * satellit did netinstall of cinnamon 1 hr ago saw initial-setup on reboot | |||
|| [[#t15:16:13|15:16]] | |||
|- id="t15:16:27" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | jreznik | |||
| style="color: #818144" | satellit: but with improper fix | |||
|| [[#t15:16:27|15:16]] | |||
|- id="t15:17:10" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | jreznik | |||
| style="color: #818144" | (actually I'd argue it wasn't as bad as 3/4 of services are still using the F17 way...) | |||
|| [[#t15:17:10|15:17]] | |||
|- id="t15:17:35" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | jreznik: well the biggest problem was that it didn't conditionalize the service enablement to happen only on first install | |||
|| [[#t15:17:35|15:17]] | |||
|- id="t15:17:38" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | jreznik | |||
| style="color: #818144" | also I should ask FPC to make the new "enabled by default" way more visible in the guidelines | |||
|| [[#t15:17:38|15:17]] | |||
|- id="t15:17:45" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | but anyhoo. | |||
|| [[#t15:17:45|15:17]] | |||
|- id="t15:18:45" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | jreznik | |||
| style="color: #818144" | adamw: it's just a bad time for initial setup handover to vratislav, especially as it's a completely new software... :( | |||
|| [[#t15:18:45|15:18]] | |||
|- id="t15:19:56" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | jreznik: can you ask vpodzime to edit the new systemd build into the initial-setup update? | |||
|| [[#t15:19:56|15:19]] | |||
|- id="t15:20:09" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | so, add systemd-200-4.fc19 to https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/initial-setup-0.3.4-3.fc19 | |||
|| [[#t15:20:09|15:20]] | |||
|- id="t15:20:42" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | jreznik | |||
| style="color: #818144" | adamw: sure, I was thinking about it but guys were faster than me | |||
|| [[#t15:20:42|15:20]] | |||
|- id="t15:20:46" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | =) | |||
|| [[#t15:20:46|15:20]] | |||
|- id="t15:20:47" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | okay | |||
|| [[#t15:20:47|15:20]] | |||
|- id="t15:20:58" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | does anyone have anything else on 19 Alpha? any significant issues we're not considering? | |||
|| [[#t15:20:58|15:20]] | |||
|- id="t15:21:20" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | jreznik | |||
| style="color: #818144" | hmm, he already left | |||
|| [[#t15:21:20|15:21]] | |||
|- id="t15:22:03" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | jreznik | |||
| style="color: #818144" | adamw: do you have rights to do it in bodhi? actually I think I could do it too... | |||
|| [[#t15:22:03|15:22]] | |||
|- id="t15:22:25" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | i don't have superpowers in bodhi, but nirik could if need be | |||
|| [[#t15:22:25|15:22]] | |||
|- id="t15:22:45" | |||
| colspan="2" | * nirik nods. just let me know what you need. | |||
|| [[#t15:22:45|15:22]] | |||
|- id="t15:23:17" | |||
! style="background-color: #488888" | nirik | |||
| style="color: #488888" | I'm doing a f19-updates-testing push right now, can edit after that | |||
|| [[#t15:23:17|15:23]] | |||
|- id="t15:23:18" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | jreznik | |||
| style="color: #818144" | for Alpha - Go/No-Go is currently scheduled on Apr 11 17:00 UTC (about to send reminder), Readiness meeting on the same day, two hours later - 19:00 UTC | |||
|| [[#t15:23:18|15:23]] | |||
|- id="t15:23:23" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | jreznik | |||
| style="color: #818144" | nirik: thanks | |||
|| [[#t15:23:23|15:23]] | |||
|- id="t15:24:12" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | #info go/no-go is scheduled for Thursday at 17:00 UTC | |||
|| [[#t15:24:12|15:24]] | |||
|- id="t15:24:25" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | #topic Test Days | |||
|| [[#t15:24:25|15:24]] | |||
|- id="t15:24:35" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | looks like we're short a martix | |||
|| [[#t15:24:35|15:24]] | |||
|- id="t15:25:16" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | #info https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2013-04-02_OpenStack and https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2013-04-04_Printing both went ahead last week, some decent involvement in the printing test day | |||
|| [[#t15:25:16|15:25]] | |||
|- id="t15:25:35" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | and good lord, i need to design some sort of autocannon system for people who write essays in the margin notes | |||
|| [[#t15:25:35|15:25]] | |||
|- id="t15:25:43" | |||
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | kparal | |||
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | I'm building LiveCDs for this week's test day | |||
|| [[#t15:25:43|15:25]] | |||
|- id="t15:26:20" | |||
| colspan="2" | * j_dulaney tried with openstack; it kept borking, so gave up | |||
|| [[#t15:26:20|15:26]] | |||
|- id="t15:27:47" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | did you report how it borked? | |||
|| [[#t15:27:47|15:27]] | |||
|- id="t15:29:13" | |||
| colspan="2" | * j_dulaney did | |||
|| [[#t15:29:13|15:29]] | |||
|- id="t15:29:39" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | yay! | |||
|| [[#t15:29:39|15:29]] | |||
|- id="t15:29:47" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | then all went according to plan. | |||
|| [[#t15:29:47|15:29]] | |||
|- id="t15:30:07" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | #info https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2013-04-11_Translation_(l10n) is coming up on Thursday, kparal is preparing live images | |||
|| [[#t15:30:07|15:30]] | |||
|- id="t15:30:11" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | #chair jreznik kparal | |||
|| [[#t15:30:11|15:30]] | |||
|- id="t15:30:12" | |||
! style="background-color: #42427e" | zodbot | |||
| style="color: #42427e" | Current chairs: adamw jreznik kparal | |||
|| [[#t15:30:12|15:30]] | |||
|- id="t15:30:37" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | the test day page is in order, l10n/i18n folks have their own setup | |||
|| [[#t15:30:37|15:30]] | |||
|- id="t15:32:28" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | anything else on test days? | |||
|| [[#t15:32:28|15:32]] | |||
|- id="t15:34:46" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | i guess not! | |||
|| [[#t15:34:46|15:34]] | |||
|- id="t15:34:49" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | #topic open floor | |||
|| [[#t15:34:49|15:34]] | |||
|- id="t15:34:54" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | that's all we have for the agenda | |||
|| [[#t15:34:54|15:34]] | |||
|- id="t15:34:58" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | anything else t odiscuss? | |||
|| [[#t15:34:58|15:34]] | |||
|- id="t15:35:38" | |||
! style="background-color: #4b904b" | j_dulaney | |||
| style="color: #4b904b" | .bacon | |||
|| [[#t15:35:38|15:35]] | |||
|- id="t15:35:38" | |||
! style="background-color: #42427e" | zodbot | |||
| style="color: #42427e" | I love bacon, you love bacon, WE ALL LOVE BACON!! (except for NiveusLuna, who was tragically attacked by bacon as a child.) | |||
|| [[#t15:35:38|15:35]] | |||
|- id="t15:36:02" | |||
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | kparal | |||
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | spam 'n' eggs? | |||
|| [[#t15:36:02|15:36]] | |||
|- id="t15:36:06" | |||
! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | tflink | |||
| style="color: #4d4d93" | blocker review meeting @ 16:00 UTC | |||
|| [[#t15:36:06|15:36]] | |||
|- id="t15:36:08" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | #info there is general approval of bacon | |||
|| [[#t15:36:08|15:36]] | |||
|- id="t15:36:17" | |||
! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | tflink | |||
| style="color: #4d4d93" | -1 | |||
|| [[#t15:36:17|15:36]] | |||
|- id="t15:36:22" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | yeah, we're following up with a blocker review meeting in #fedora-blocker-review | |||
|| [[#t15:36:22|15:36]] | |||
|- id="t15:36:24" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | .fire tflink | |||
|| [[#t15:36:24|15:36]] | |||
|- id="t15:36:24" | |||
! style="background-color: #42427e" | zodbot | |||
| style="color: #42427e" | adamw fires tflink | |||
|| [[#t15:36:24|15:36]] | |||
|- id="t15:36:30" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | #info tflink was fired for disapproving of bacon | |||
|| [[#t15:36:30|15:36]] | |||
|- id="t15:36:52" | |||
| colspan="2" | * tflink will never understand the obsession with bacon | |||
|| [[#t15:36:52|15:36]] | |||
|- id="t15:37:32" | |||
! style="background-color: #4b904b" | j_dulaney | |||
| style="color: #4b904b" | Bacon == life | |||
|| [[#t15:37:32|15:37]] | |||
|- id="t15:37:34" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | THAT'S YOUR PROBLEM, FLINK | |||
|| [[#t15:37:34|15:37]] | |||
|- id="t15:37:49" | |||
! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | tflink | |||
| style="color: #4d4d93" | the last time I ate bacon, I was sick for the rest of the day | |||
|| [[#t15:37:49|15:37]] | |||
|- id="t15:38:07" | |||
! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | tflink | |||
| style="color: #4d4d93" | oh well, to each their own | |||
|| [[#t15:38:07|15:38]] | |||
|- id="t15:38:12" | |||
! style="background-color: #97974f" | misc | |||
| style="color: #97974f" | tflink: your lack of faith in bacon is disturbing | |||
|| [[#t15:38:12|15:38]] | |||
|- id="t15:38:53" | |||
| colspan="2" | * jreznik is getting hungry! | |||
|| [[#t15:38:53|15:38]] | |||
|- id="t15:39:36" | |||
! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | tflink | |||
| style="color: #4d4d93" | misc: more disturbing than bacon flavored for the potty-mouthed bacon lover (http://www.thinkgeek.com/product/da14/)? | |||
|| [[#t15:39:36|15:39]] | |||
|- id="t15:39:44" | |||
! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | tflink | |||
| style="color: #4d4d93" | bacon flavored soap | |||
|| [[#t15:39:44|15:39]] | |||
|- id="t15:39:46" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | alrighty, let's give everyone 20 minutes to go and eat some bacon | |||
|| [[#t15:39:46|15:39]] | |||
|- id="t15:40:01" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | then we re-convene in #fedora-blocker-review to blow through the blocker list | |||
|| [[#t15:40:01|15:40]] | |||
|- id="t15:40:03" | |||
! style="background-color: #4b904b" | j_dulaney | |||
| style="color: #4b904b" | .moar bacon adamw | |||
|| [[#t15:40:03|15:40]] | |||
|- id="t15:40:03" | |||
! style="background-color: #42427e" | zodbot | |||
| style="color: #42427e" | here adamw, have some more bacon | |||
|| [[#t15:40:03|15:40]] | |||
|- id="t15:40:37" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | thanks for coming, folks | |||
|| [[#t15:40:37|15:40]] | |||
|- id="t15:40:39" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | #endmeeting | |||
|| [[#t15:40:39|15:40]] | |||
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Attendees
Agenda
- Fedora 19 Alpha status
- Test Days
- Open floor
Fedora 19 Alpha status
- Bugzilla: #929403 and Bugzilla: #928279 are known to be 'outstanding' blockers
- dgilmore was out on the day of the meeting, may not be able to get next compose until tomorrow
- karma needed for initial-setup-0.3.4-3.fc19 and libreport-2.1.3-2.fc19
- go/no-go was scheduled for Thursday at 17:00 UTC
Test Days
- OpenStack Test Day and Printing Test Day both went ahead as planned without known problems
- Test_Day:2013-04-11_Translation_(l10n) looks to be pretty much ready, we need to send out some announcements; kparal is preparing live images
Open floor
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Action items
N/A
IRC Log
adamw | #startmeeting Fedora QA meeting | 15:01 |
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zodbot | Meeting started Mon Apr 8 15:01:29 2013 UTC. The chair is adamw. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:01 |
zodbot | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. | 15:01 |
adamw | #meetingname fedora-qa | 15:01 |
zodbot | The meeting name has been set to 'fedora-qa' | 15:01 |
adamw | #topic roll call | 15:01 |
adamw | morning folks | 15:01 |
* nirik is lurking. | 15:01 | |
* satellit listening | 15:01 | |
* kparal cheers | 15:01 | |
* mkrizek is here | 15:01 | |
* brunowolff is here | 15:02 | |
* jskladan tips his hat | 15:02 | |
* j_dulaney sets down the banjo | 15:03 | |
* tflink is present | 15:03 | |
* jreznik is here | 15:03 | |
* pschindl is here | 15:03 | |
jreznik | morning adamw! | 15:03 |
adamw | wow, guess i can't sleep through this one huh | 15:03 |
adamw | #topic Fedora 19 Alpha status | 15:04 |
adamw | so, everybody touch wood, but we're actually looking pretty good | 15:05 |
adamw | #info current blocker list: http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/milestone/19/alpha/buglist | 15:05 |
* j_dulaney doesn't have any wood around. | 15:05 | |
adamw | there's only three proposed blockers (which don't look likely to be accepted) and two possible issues in the accepted blockers | 15:05 |
jreznik | we were able to figure out initial-setup one in the morning | 15:06 |
adamw | right - this is https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=929403 , it was 'fixed' but the fix was incorrect | 15:07 |
adamw | we're currently getting the fix corrected | 15:07 |
jreznik | it has to be verified now | 15:07 |
adamw | then there's https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=928279 , it looks like some progress has been made there | 15:07 |
jreznik | we have at least a clue and also - it was moved from F15 beta blocker to NTH that time and we have several workarounds... | 15:08 |
jreznik | I'm not sure how to fix properly... the second option should be doable | 15:08 |
adamw | yeah, we can re-discuss it at the blocker meeting and see if we want to drop blocker status | 15:09 |
adamw | #info 929403 and 928279 are known to be 'outstanding' blockers | 15:09 |
adamw | dgilmore is out today unfortunately so we may have to wait till tomorrow for a compose | 15:09 |
adamw | #info dgilmore is out today, may not be able to get next compose until tomorrow | 15:10 |
* jreznik is not sure pbabinca would be able to create compose, could ask (in case we would need it) | 15:10 | |
adamw | nirik is usually the backup | 15:11 |
* nirik could try if need be | 15:11 | |
brunowolff | It's not good that only one person is trusted (in the knows what to do sense) to do composes. | 15:11 |
jreznik | adamw: yep I know, the idea is that palo could help us in out timezone too (to make the process faster when needed) | 15:11 |
* nirik has access and can do them | 15:11 | |
adamw | ah | 15:11 |
adamw | so, looking at test coverage, we're not looking too bad | 15:11 |
adamw | we could do with testing some USB installs to bare metal, and UEFI too | 15:12 |
* j_dulaney will work on the USB | 15:13 | |
* satellit need someone else to try bare metal USB install and confirm what I saw | 15:13 | |
adamw | yeah, i suspect that'll be just your system' | 15:13 |
adamw | well, I had issues with a dd'ed usb stick the only time i tried now i come to think of it, so maybe not. but litd worked okay. | 15:13 |
* satellit always worked before | 15:14 | |
adamw | okay | 15:14 |
* j_dulaney had no problem the last time he tested dd live to USB | 15:14 | |
adamw | we only need either dd or litd to work at alpha though, so even if dd is busted it's not a disaster. but it'd be good to check | 15:14 |
* j_dulaney is dding even now | 15:15 | |
adamw | it doesn't look like we need karma for any of the testing fixes except https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/initial-setup-0.3.4-3.fc19 (which should probably go along with a systemd build) and https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/libreport-2.1.3-2.fc19 (we're waiting for a compose to test that one) | 15:15 |
adamw | i suppose we really should get a compose done with libreport in it to make sure that fix works... | 15:15 |
adamw | #info karma needed for https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/initial-setup-0.3.4-3.fc19 and https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/libreport-2.1.3-2.fc19 | 15:15 |
* satellit did netinstall of cinnamon 1 hr ago saw initial-setup on reboot | 15:16 | |
jreznik | satellit: but with improper fix | 15:16 |
jreznik | (actually I'd argue it wasn't as bad as 3/4 of services are still using the F17 way...) | 15:17 |
adamw | jreznik: well the biggest problem was that it didn't conditionalize the service enablement to happen only on first install | 15:17 |
jreznik | also I should ask FPC to make the new "enabled by default" way more visible in the guidelines | 15:17 |
adamw | but anyhoo. | 15:17 |
jreznik | adamw: it's just a bad time for initial setup handover to vratislav, especially as it's a completely new software... :( | 15:18 |
adamw | jreznik: can you ask vpodzime to edit the new systemd build into the initial-setup update? | 15:19 |
adamw | so, add systemd-200-4.fc19 to https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/initial-setup-0.3.4-3.fc19 | 15:20 |
jreznik | adamw: sure, I was thinking about it but guys were faster than me | 15:20 |
adamw | =) | 15:20 |
adamw | okay | 15:20 |
adamw | does anyone have anything else on 19 Alpha? any significant issues we're not considering? | 15:20 |
jreznik | hmm, he already left | 15:21 |
jreznik | adamw: do you have rights to do it in bodhi? actually I think I could do it too... | 15:22 |
adamw | i don't have superpowers in bodhi, but nirik could if need be | 15:22 |
* nirik nods. just let me know what you need. | 15:22 | |
nirik | I'm doing a f19-updates-testing push right now, can edit after that | 15:23 |
jreznik | for Alpha - Go/No-Go is currently scheduled on Apr 11 17:00 UTC (about to send reminder), Readiness meeting on the same day, two hours later - 19:00 UTC | 15:23 |
jreznik | nirik: thanks | 15:23 |
adamw | #info go/no-go is scheduled for Thursday at 17:00 UTC | 15:24 |
adamw | #topic Test Days | 15:24 |
adamw | looks like we're short a martix | 15:24 |
adamw | #info https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2013-04-02_OpenStack and https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2013-04-04_Printing both went ahead last week, some decent involvement in the printing test day | 15:25 |
adamw | and good lord, i need to design some sort of autocannon system for people who write essays in the margin notes | 15:25 |
kparal | I'm building LiveCDs for this week's test day | 15:25 |
* j_dulaney tried with openstack; it kept borking, so gave up | 15:26 | |
adamw | did you report how it borked? | 15:27 |
* j_dulaney did | 15:29 | |
adamw | yay! | 15:29 |
adamw | then all went according to plan. | 15:29 |
adamw | #info https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2013-04-11_Translation_(l10n) is coming up on Thursday, kparal is preparing live images | 15:30 |
adamw | #chair jreznik kparal | 15:30 |
zodbot | Current chairs: adamw jreznik kparal | 15:30 |
adamw | the test day page is in order, l10n/i18n folks have their own setup | 15:30 |
adamw | anything else on test days? | 15:32 |
adamw | i guess not! | 15:34 |
adamw | #topic open floor | 15:34 |
adamw | that's all we have for the agenda | 15:34 |
adamw | anything else t odiscuss? | 15:34 |
j_dulaney | .bacon | 15:35 |
zodbot | I love bacon, you love bacon, WE ALL LOVE BACON!! (except for NiveusLuna, who was tragically attacked by bacon as a child.) | 15:35 |
kparal | spam 'n' eggs? | 15:36 |
tflink | blocker review meeting @ 16:00 UTC | 15:36 |
adamw | #info there is general approval of bacon | 15:36 |
tflink | -1 | 15:36 |
adamw | yeah, we're following up with a blocker review meeting in #fedora-blocker-review | 15:36 |
adamw | .fire tflink | 15:36 |
zodbot | adamw fires tflink | 15:36 |
adamw | #info tflink was fired for disapproving of bacon | 15:36 |
* tflink will never understand the obsession with bacon | 15:36 | |
j_dulaney | Bacon == life | 15:37 |
adamw | THAT'S YOUR PROBLEM, FLINK | 15:37 |
tflink | the last time I ate bacon, I was sick for the rest of the day | 15:37 |
tflink | oh well, to each their own | 15:38 |
misc | tflink: your lack of faith in bacon is disturbing | 15:38 |
* jreznik is getting hungry! | 15:38 | |
tflink | misc: more disturbing than bacon flavored for the potty-mouthed bacon lover (http://www.thinkgeek.com/product/da14/)? | 15:39 |
tflink | bacon flavored soap | 15:39 |
adamw | alrighty, let's give everyone 20 minutes to go and eat some bacon | 15:39 |
adamw | then we re-convene in #fedora-blocker-review to blow through the blocker list | 15:40 |
j_dulaney | .moar bacon adamw | 15:40 |
zodbot | here adamw, have some more bacon | 15:40 |
adamw | thanks for coming, folks | 15:40 |
adamw | #endmeeting | 15:40 |
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